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PostSubject: Yb training losses   Tue May 09, 2017 9:29 am

Here we go again, 1st toss from 10 miles and we are 2 down, they took their time coming but I remember from last year the 1st time I tossed them from the same spot they were about the same time, still hoping for the 2, but as usual it's the time of year for a few to lose their way, a bit peed off, but at least the biggest part of them came home.
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Tue May 09, 2017 9:34 am

I hope they turn up lofty, any news on them yet...?
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Tue May 09, 2017 9:36 am

hope they turn in m8 are your ybs darkies or natural ....be mindful of training Wednesdays m8 still a lot of old birds in the air training this time of year to atb
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Tue May 09, 2017 10:07 am

No sign of them yet David,
They're darkies daz, the earlier ones are more young adults now, with the others still losing some feather around the head, but are loft flying for an hour and a half or more, and there's some that are not quite ready to toss so will be a while before they go up the road
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 7:49 am

For your part of wales I would be happy to get them back! Ive had ybs go missing for a few day then appear out the blue so always hope. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 8:55 am

Isn't it a bit early to be training young birds Lofty?

I don't know, that is why I am asking.

I have heard that most people start training y/b's five or six weeks before racing young birds starts.

You obviously have different thoughts and I would like to know what they are please.

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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 10:51 am

You'd think so wouldn't you Phil, but we are a bit behind the best flyers in the club, who will train most days come rain or shine upto the first liberation point in the yb programme, it's what they do to stay ahead of the game. We race against some top flyers in the fed which are from the valleys and we don't get much overfly on them so we need ours to break a long way out to stand any chance, so for us it's train ,train , train those that make it will be up for the races
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 11:02 am

hammer the breaking point into them m8 its same for me here they have to break from the mob about 15 miles out else its no chance in the result unless they all hug the river and break from there
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 2:56 pm

We're looking at a break point at least double that daz, probably between Cardiff and Newport, 30/40 miles, just to try and stop them heading up to the valleys
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 4:44 pm

How are you trying to get them to break at that distance from the loft?

I am interested as I have the same problem myself.

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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 6:19 pm

Last year we were late and only had a hand full of ybs, this year we are ready, birds on darkness , early start to training, so, we will train them to 30/40 miles as a group, maybe in 2 groups, then when it's all to easy for them it will be in ones and twos so hopefully they won't follow the pack and are happy to go the last 30/40 on their own, that's the theory anyway scratch hope this helps Phil.
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 8:26 pm

Yes - Brilliant - that is exactly what I do.

I really believe in single-up tossing - it makes the bird think for its self, but you have to single toss a few times, so the bird does it almost automatically.

Good luck with it all Lofty.

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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Wed May 10, 2017 9:44 pm

All sound easy when you see it written down, it'll probably go t--ts up as soon as we think everything's ok lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Thu May 11, 2017 1:14 am

Lofty wrote:
All sound easy when you see it written down, it'll probably go t--ts up as soon as we think everything's ok lol!
100% gauranteed I would suggest Lofty Smile Smile. Average pigeon flyer Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes for me, has to be like a bad boxer who keeps getting floored each week in the ring  bounce bounce Smile Smile but know's he must keep coming back for more punishment Wink Wink for the enjoyment factor he gains  lol!  lol!  lol!.   cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Thu May 11, 2017 5:03 pm

Good luck with the training roy hope they come well for you. Sounds like they are doing well . everytime i let my ybs out the peregrine trys to hit in to them. I keep them in for a few days after the first hit but now i have to chance it as he is there what ever time i let them out. Last night one missing seen a puff of feather in the sky and one back with tail feathers missing. Am 5 down just from loft flying all ready Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Thu May 11, 2017 6:37 pm

sorry to hear that john nightmare down where you are
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Thu May 11, 2017 7:17 pm

I must confess. I have been lucky so far with raptor losses. Other predators usually can eliminate. But I do feel that both to get pigeons to break and avoid raptor problems, single up or small groups are best. If we race this weekend, the unraced yearlings will be coming from 155 miles. Of course they have never been there before. But again, neither had they been 30 miles when first trained there. They do not know how far it is. They head home as fast as they can. Hopefully in the right direction! I never worry about the distance. But having said that, birds that have been raced before recognize landmarks and hopefully speed up a little in anticipation of home.
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Thu May 11, 2017 8:07 pm

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Good luck with the training roy hope they come well for you. Sounds like they are doing well . everytime i let my ybs  out the peregrine trys to hit in to them. I keep them in for a few days after the first hit but now i have to chance it as he is there what ever time i let them out. Last night one missing seen a puff of feather in the sky and one back with tail feathers missing. Am 5 down just from loft flying all ready Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


Bad news John, they're getting to plague proportions down our part of South Wales, not a day goes by without one of our members getting a hit, we used to get the ybs out about 9-30am but got hit most mornings, sparrowhawks first then Percy when they were in the air, now they go at 11-30/12-00 after the Hawks had their breakfast, so far it seem to be better with just one Percy trying and missing, one of the birds missing from the first training toss is a red pied, probably hawk food now Evil or Very Mad , hope things get better for you buddy.
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Thu May 11, 2017 10:54 pm

Sounds like hell, I feel for you boys.
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Fri May 12, 2017 5:37 am

I am so sorry to hear about the hawk problems you are having John2.

It must be so disheartening.

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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Fri May 12, 2017 7:24 am

Its crazy lads the birds are to scared to come out the loft some days .I am going to try early in the morning about 5 o clock and see if that will help i tried 5 at night and 7 at night he is there every time . I cant do it round 12 roy as am in work but would give it a go if i could. hopefully it will get better but cant see it Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Fri May 12, 2017 7:41 am

we always train in small batches 8-9 ybs to a basket and after a few tosses it will be 3/4 released old birds always 3/4 released, at any given time ...exercising ...we let ybs out around midday ,hawks are never a problem but the peregrine is a different kettle of fish hope things ease up for ya john
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PostSubject: Re: Yb training losses   Fri May 12, 2017 8:04 pm

Thanks darren. I trained my ybs last year in tens. I did get quite good results doing it that way might try single tosses this year on the further ones and see if its better for the birds. Very Happy
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