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PostSubject: Looking ahead   Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:18 pm

How many members planning for next year? Possible pairings are always in my mind as I go about my business in the loft. I have also ordered a batch of six young birds for racing next year.

Two of the five I got this year (as part of last years forward planning) are flying out but not in the young bird race loft so not sure how to treat them. I have yet to decide whether to train and race or train and keep back for a seasons breeding before racing.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:20 pm

I`m planning for next year caramel, im starting to build a new loft shortly, with the intention of being able to race ybs next season.......I`m also thinking of a few different pairings for next year. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:38 pm

I'm. Planning now for few channel. Birds
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:35 pm

I'm landing pairings in my head all the time for next year.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:01 am

All stock birds here apart from the Ganus pigeon of Venus bloodlines have raced well.
Get older they go to the stock loft. They do not produce they are eliminated. Replaced by other racers. Winners breed winners most of the time, not always of course. Pedigrees? No more. Past history. Not relevant. 12 cocks go to the stock loft 12 hens also. Pairs kept from before remate. Others pick their own mates. No more sleepless nights. Racers went off form few weeks ago. Now have bounced right back. It will be hard to cull this year. So will push them until the last race. 10 cocks next week then hens or both go. Depends of course. This is my method and obviously goes against the grain of many fliers. The club I am in has the most Fed wins of any of the affiliated clubs. But do not fly more than 280 miles. They have speed birds. I do not need birds that can win by fractions of a second. All widowhood or double widowhood fliers. Tougher the race better my birds are especially at the distance. As for last Saturdays race, tornadoes and thunderstorms on course, I did well. In my opinion anyway. But each to their own. I am pig headed when it comes to some aspects of the "sport".
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:01 am

halcanada wrote:
All stock birds here apart from the Ganus pigeon of Venus bloodlines have raced well.
Get older they go to the stock loft.  They do not produce they are eliminated. Replaced by other racers. Winners breed winners most of the time, not always of course. Pedigrees? No more. Past history. Not relevant. 12 cocks go to the stock loft 12 hens also. Pairs kept from before remate. Others pick their own mates. No more sleepless nights. Racers went off form few weeks ago. Now have bounced right back. It will be hard to cull this year. So will push them until the last race. 10 cocks next week then hens or both go. Depends of course. This is my method and obviously goes against the grain of many fliers. The club I am in has the most Fed wins of any of the affiliated clubs. But do not fly more than 280 miles. They have speed birds. I do not need birds that can win by fractions of a second. All widowhood or double widowhood fliers. Tougher the race better my birds are especially at the distance. As for last Saturdays race, tornadoes and thunderstorms on course, I did well. In my opinion anyway. But each to their own. I am pig headed when it comes to some aspects of the "sport".
lol! lol! lol! "Pig headed" Smile Smile is that similar Hal Smile Smile if your an A**e hole etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes if you tend to disagree with the expert types Smile Smile in our sport as such, who much prefer the sheep type clones I've found.  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 pm

halcanada wrote:
All stock birds here apart from the Ganus pigeon of Venus bloodlines have raced well.
Get older they go to the stock loft.  They do not produce they are eliminated. Replaced by other racers. Winners breed winners most of the time, not always of course. Pedigrees? No more. Past history. Not relevant. 12 cocks go to the stock loft 12 hens also. Pairs kept from before remate. Others pick their own mates. No more sleepless nights. Racers went off form few weeks ago. Now have bounced right back. It will be hard to cull this year. So will push them until the last race. 10 cocks next week then hens or both go. Depends of course. This is my method and obviously goes against the grain of many fliers. The club I am in has the most Fed wins of any of the affiliated clubs. But do not fly more than 280 miles. They have speed birds. I do not need birds that can win by fractions of a second. All widowhood or double widowhood fliers. Tougher the race better my birds are especially at the distance. As for last Saturdays race, tornadoes and thunderstorms on course, I did well. In my opinion anyway. But each to their own. I am pig headed when it comes to some aspects of the "sport".

How many birds do you have in total Hal?

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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:34 pm

I was making plans for next year or should I say the end of November/early December this year.

BUT - we have found a buyer for our property in frogland, so everything is up in the air now.

I don't know if I will be able to settle any of our birds to a new loft in England. I have no experience of moving lofts. Any ideas anyone.

I am going to breed a little batch of late breds and not let them out of the loft. Trustfully they will have more chance of staying put in the new UK loft.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:32 pm

Knackered. Asshole I may be to some. But I have helped out many newbies with free birds etc,. Years ago many old time fanciers came to me for meds. Antbiotics. Also said "dont tell anyone." Quit medicating years ago so visits dropped off.
Phil. Total birds now. 40 young birds. 12 pairs I use for stock birds. 15 pairs I fly from one loft and 12 pairs from another. So, 118 total. Reason for so many did not race young birds last year. I also gave 30 plus away, young and old. Losses this year 4 birds. So far. Was expecting more losses. Unraced as youngsters the yearlings are coming through very well. Need probably 3 pairs of young for next year. Hate to get rid of some birds but performance does not lie. The lesser birds have to go.
As for re settling pigeons never had a problem. Or very few. If you cannot move the loft as I was unable to on many occasions I took the nest boxes. They appear to be more attached to them than the loft.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:43 am

halcanada wrote:
Knackered. Asshole I may be to some. But I have helped out many newbies with free birds etc,. Years ago many old time fanciers came to me for meds. Antbiotics. Also said "dont tell anyone." Quit medicating years ago so visits dropped off.
Phil. Total birds now. 40 young birds. 12 pairs I use for stock birds. 15 pairs I fly from one loft and 12 pairs from another. So, 118 total. Reason for so many did not race young birds last year. I also gave 30 plus away, young and old. Losses this year 4 birds. So far. Was expecting more losses. Unraced as youngsters the yearlings are coming through very well. Need probably 3 pairs of young for next year. Hate to get rid of some birds but performance does not lie. The lesser birds have to go.
As for re settling pigeons never had a problem. Or very few. If you cannot move the loft as I was unable to on many occasions I took the nest boxes. They appear to be more attached to them than the loft.
Certain people Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes do tend to accumulate pigeons in their old age Hal Smile Smile I've found. 118 lol! lol! lol! OH, to be so lucky Wink Wink.   cheers  Smile Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:55 pm

always thinking and looking at potential pairings in the loft
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PostSubject: Re: Looking ahead   Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:51 am

Yes. I have found usually a good hen produces better than a good cock. Others have found the opposite. It is always a guessing game. Some birds I have got rid of I wish I had kept in hindsight. Many sleepless nights lost thinking of pairings. Used to be. Best to best hope for the best. Way it is now anyway.
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