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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Made a start. Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:07 pm | |
| Back and knees complaining! |
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Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:19 pm | |
| It's only going to get worse Hal, by the time you've got it all up even your pee will be aching |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:36 pm | |
| Lofty. Bending down, 60 odd small screws, was going to kneel to do it. But 60 times down is OK. Getting back up is the killer! Took the dogs for a walk. Loosen up some. Must be an age thing? |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16272 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:53 pm | |
| atb with the project hal ...a good base is the way to go |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:08 am | |
| Bit of wind today. Not too much but enough when I lifted the panels above my head to slide between the uprights (standing on a step ladder) had quite a battle with them. Had to get my wife and daughter to help. Hate asking for help!! Anyway, braced for the night. Roof trusses tomorrow. Top end of me is now aching. Arms neck etc,. But must admit, should be easier from now on. |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:54 am | |
| Wind and thunderstorms tomorrow. Just have to get the roof trusses up to stabilize everything. |
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Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:40 am | |
| Starting to look good Hal, should be very nice when it's finished |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:05 am | |
| Did you buy the shed in panels and put the together?
Is it like plastic siding panels Hal?
Phil |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:31 am | |
| Yes Phil. Comes with an instruction manual. Every part numbered. Simple? Far from it!!! So many parts, similar, had it up and down as parts did not line up. No wonder I cannot paint by numbers! Started at 6 am. Quit at 4 pm. Still have to change some joints. Can build an 8 x 8 out of plywood  and 2 x 4s in a day. Not this one! Day 3 now. Some trusses in. 2 more to make up after modifications. Nothing would line up, numerous screw holes etc,. Wife came out at 10 am said coffee was ready. Also pointed out after reading the manual had some parts wrong. She was right. Told me I should pay attention to details and not get too rambunctious. Yeah yeah. Went in for coffee and she gave me 2 Crossword scratch tickets. So scratched them. "Garbage" I said. She checked them. Informed me I had missed a few letters. Had won $9. "You going to tell me attention to detail?" She just smiled! Hate being wrong!! Archie Bunker type! Tomorrow back at it but easy day. 2 trusses to make. Plywood arriving for floor. Roof panels probably Sunday. Birds have to be out. Get used to the new structure. Shipping tomorrow night 285 miles. They have been neglected, so do not expect too much. Headwind forecast all the way back. Well would love a bath but shower will have to do. Bath can get down but not up in my present state. Oh well, keeps me active. Retired people never get a day off. |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:43 am | |
| one page from manual. Roof assembly. |
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Boosey Youngbird
Posts : 2064 Join date : 2013-08-09 Age : 52 Location : Basildon, Essex
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:57 am | |
| Blimey that looks complicated |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:41 am | |
| You are dead right Hal - I retired a few years ago now but still do just as much work (maybe even more at times) - the only difference now is I don't get paid!
Re your new building - WHY - this so called pre-made thing that to me looks really flimsy and a good wind would just blow it away.
You are obviously a skilled man and very capable of building a proper WOOD loft or wood and other materials building- why this plastic thing that is clearly driving you mad?
I did the same thing as you are doing once, except I bought a wooden garden shed. The materials were so thin and flimsy, the roof parts were made of something like MDF, but like concrete, so when you drove felt nails into it (which were supplied) you made great big holes on the inside, where the felt nails smashed the wood.
I am sorry to say, I don't like this new building at all. To me, even the floor joists (if I can call them that) look like they will bend when a large dog would walk on them.
Sorry Hal - I think you are a great bloke, but this time, you dun-did it wrong. Just my opinion.
OR - Maybe, I got it all wrong - and it is a house for dogs! Not pigeons.
Phil |
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Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:37 am | |
| It was a Father's Day gift from his daughter I think phil |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:14 am | |
| - Lofty wrote:
- It was a Father's Day gift from his daughter I think phil
OOps! Phil |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:17 am | |
| Present from my daughter. 5 more roof trusses to put up. Should be sturdy enough. Pic at 6 am. |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:43 am | |
| I didn't mean to offend Hal, I was just very surprised that you were trying to build such a thing.
Phil
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:15 am | |
| No offense taken. Twisted my knee today so on temporary hold. Plywood floor is laid. Could not even catch the birds to ship. 3 more races left, old birds. |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:31 pm | |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:28 pm | |
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Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:46 pm | |
| Looks the business Hal, nice job, what's going in it,prisoner stock or racers |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:52 pm | |
| Good job their hal very nice |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:37 pm | |
| Well folks. Everything I have flies out. New place is 10.5 by 8 feet. 6 foot inside walls. Middle 30 inch plywood floor will be cut in the middle to make a 30 by 30 inch grill. Summer ventilation. If no enough will open right side door. Double doors. Probably a mesh door inside that. Plastic mesh. Perhaps bobs on the bottom? UK style open door? Not sure how that will work, just seen pics. stock birds? Not sure yet. I can put 4 boxes across the back wall 3 high. 12 pair. 6 x 12 loft has 18 boxes. Thinking 18 widowhood cocks for next year. Leaves me 3 8 x 8 lofts. So. One for young birds, one for widowhood hens. One I will pull down. Any suggestions as how to manipulate the space welcome. If I flew 18 pairs would not need the widowhood hen loft. Pull that one down. However, it is very hard to beat widowhood cocks flying to he nest with natural birds with the overly I have. Any suggestions, ideas very welcome. I have to cut numbers down, as I have stated before. 12 stock, 18 pairs. Or 12. Plus young birds but never a large amount again. 30 would be enough. The 12 x 6 has a four foot I added . From a 6 x 8 original. It has an aviary. I can and have put a door the and put the hens in the 4 x 8. Let them together again few days ago in anticipation of this weekends race. Bu did not fly as stated. Ideas? |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:02 am | |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Made a start. Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:19 am | |
| It looks like you have done a superb job Hal - but I wouldn't expect anything less from a man of your calibre!
Good job.
Phil |
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