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The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:04 am

Did a head count. Think down 2. Moved birds over to the Duramax loft. Stock loft now. Opened the adjoining door. Young to next partition. Twice the space. They are happy!
Here is something of interest. Checking young bird flights I found that the 9 early ones are only down 3. Older ones much further on. They were only on the dark for a month.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:11 am

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Did a head count. Think down 2. Moved birds over to the Duramax loft. Stock loft now. Opened the adjoining door. Young to next partition. Twice the space. They are happy!
Here is something of interest. Checking young bird flights I found that the 9 early ones are only down 3. Older ones much further on. They were only on the dark for a month.
Final conclusion would be etc Hal Smile Smile as it's all double Dutch to me I'm afraid unfortunately Wink Wink & I've seen far to many late breds here beat ones with a full wing as such on race day to be all that bothered with that type of thing, thou I fully understand how many could find something there to worry about I suspect. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:14 pm

Knackered. No matter to me. Different stages of moult some will always be ready. Probably ship 15 a week. I need very few fortunately.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:28 pm

Thunderstorms today with clear breaks. Took them to 20 only. They got caught in a heavy rainstorm. Couple more down so far. One thing I did notice. A smokey checker young hen last one weaned arrived with the others and tried to get in the second section. Have a hinged flap (landing board) to cover the dowels. She actually forced it open. She was looking for her cock. Older bird I had moved to the stock loft. She is out of one of my best racers. Moved her over also. Should be interesting.....the young next year from her. I am always looking for signs, different from the norm behavior. But who knows?
I do know that one family of blue bars, if they have the yellow eye, really do good. Most anyway. but do not know enough about eye sign to predict 100%.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:10 pm

nice one hal we had another toss today all went well
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:24 am

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nice one hal we had another toss today all went well
So did I O/S Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes "another toss" Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad. Another one reported from my first toss a month ago etc here. Being one of those types Wink Wink that was not going to travel 50 odd miles for one pigeon as such Smile Smile my cock team sadly, felt the pain again unfortunately lol! lol! lol! here today with a gale force wind on their nose for enjoyment. 8/65 missing, so things are improving ??? from the first toss they had. Must tell you all Smile Smile   one late bred mealy cock here got left in my unit unfortunately for 15 minutes because I was chatting waffle lol! lol! lol!  to someone interested in what I was doing. Now known as my speedy cock etc, as he took 3 hours to find his perch Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes.  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:05 am

when do you expect to be back racing oz
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:14 pm

Going to try for another toss today. If it clears up. Race Saturday, 155 miles. Big jump from 35! But I reckon a pigeon puts it,s head down and goes in the direction it thinks home is. Probably a 4 hour race. Supposed to be a nice day Saturday. So will see what transpires.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:53 pm

All went well. They are ready.
Sheba. 50lbs today. 4 months old.

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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:40 pm

good luck for Saturday hal pooch is coming along well
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:20 pm

Great your last toss was a good one Hal.
Good luck Saturday mate.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:36 am

Thanks folks. It is not a question of winning for me, but would be nice! Will ship 15 out of the 36. $150 for 15, $225 for 30. And so on. Many ship a 100. However, first two races are 155 miles for me. So second week 15 more go. Different ones. Week after a 155 and a 205 miler. I look at it this way. I cannot train to 155 miles for $150. They need the experience. May not race after the 3rd race, depends on the moult. What it will do ( I hope ) is show me the better ones. Some will fall by the wayside, so be it. I do not actually need any for next year, or just a few. They will e competing against birds, (the majority) kept in the dark. So may be at a disadvantage that way. No matter. Have to be realistic. In my experience, most good young birds make good old birds. But not always. Have to do a major cull this year. So each has to earn a perch. Not everyone's idea of what to keep but has worked in the past. Good luck to all shipping this week.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:47 pm

don't look like we will get another toss in before sundays race as weathers not looking great running up to the weekend tomorrow maybe but doubtful and Friday looks grim ,would have liked 1 more toss to keep them sharp ah well what will be Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:59 pm

Same here daz, was hoping to get another toss in before the weekend but the weather is a bit grim, may get a window tomorrow afternoon but we will have to play it by ear, if it looks even a little bit dodgy they won't go, don't even know if we've got a race this week yet scratch
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:56 pm

pups coming on nicely hal.......... cheers


those crops in the photo remind me of that film where aliens came out of crops just like yours........ affraid
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:34 am

Yes David. Corn is high. Which means, believe it or not, the computer has a hard time picking up the satellite signal. Was soybeans last year so no problem. Also corn hides predators. 4 legged ones. First hawk in a while was around today. Or falcon. Just a glimpse of him/her. Probably a young one. .22 is ready if he presents a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:37 am

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Thanks folks. It is not a question of winning for me, but would be nice! Will ship 15 out of the 36. $150 for 15,  $225 for 30. And so on. Many ship a 100. However, first two races are 155 miles for me. So second week 15 more go. Different ones. Week after a 155 and a 205 miler. I look at it this way. I cannot train to 155 miles for $150. They need the experience. May not race after the 3rd race, depends on the moult. What it will do ( I hope ) is show me the better ones. Some will fall by the wayside, so be it. I do not actually need any for next year, or just a few. They will e competing against birds, (the majority) kept in the dark. So may be at a disadvantage that way. No matter. Have to be realistic. In my experience, most good young birds make good old birds. But not always. Have to do a major cull this year. So each has to earn a perch. Not everyone's idea of what to keep but has worked in the past. Good luck to all shipping this week.
All sounds reasonable to me Hal etc Smile Smile. At our age type of thing, we do what we do Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes the best way we can Smile Smile I suspect & the fanatic/purists types Wink Wink could put foreward what we do is maybe wrong by the text book as such, maybe. But it means little to us now I would put foreward Wink Wink.  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:16 am

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when do you expect to be back racing oz
Truth be told O/S Smile Smile the chances are slim etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes with what is going on down here & the mess that has been created Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad by certain of the know all types sadly from my perspective. Could write a book, unfortunately  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  on the mess occurring in my local area between the differant Fed's & it's a dog eat dog scenareo at the moment, with some Fed's flying & others in limbo etc. Club Secretary rang last week here for my Ring order/numbers for next year. Out come Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 120 years odd down the tube between us & a grand total of zero rings required it appears, from our Fed. Enough said Smile Smile just waiting now on the next gale to blow up here also, to in flick more pain on my race cocks as such & I suspect Hal here also Smile Smile would have some idea on what my main purpose is with what I have to do Wink Wink.    cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:13 pm

we managed to get a 20 mile toss in today it was a strong headwind they were blew offline when released but circled back around a group of trees and headed for home all their on arrival home...so its settle down now for sundays race see how they go Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:53 pm

I managed to get a 21 miler in today as well Darren, very lucky though as we've had torrential down pours in Essex this afternoon after mine got home.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:00 pm

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we managed to get a 20 mile toss in today it was a strong headwind they were blew offline when released but circled back around a group of trees and headed for home all their on arrival home...so its settle down now for sundays race see how they go Basketball

We were supposed to be going for a Sunday race as well, but the weather is really bad for Sunday so our fed have gone back to Saturday, I'd check with your club daz as I don't think it will be a go for a Sunday race
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:51 pm

good to hear steve we had to dodge the weather to ...roy ,looks ok for us sunday at stratford and here until dinnertime so looks like a early lib for us but may change yet where are you racing from
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:11 pm

we are at Cwmbran Saturday. The ybs had 3 tosses this week so they seem to be fit hopefully anyway lol. I am sending half my team this week 16 ybs. Good luck all racing this weekend.hope you have a good race. cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:12 pm

good luck john
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:07 am

good luck to you all this weekend........ cheers
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