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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:50 am

My second toss tomorrow. Last one was over a week ago from 10 miles. Tomorrow hot and humid but will take them 20 miles anyway. Rest of the week bad weather forecast. Next week all good days. try for a few 30 milers. But 1st race is on the 29th. 150 miles for me. Have to jump them. However, if I do not think they are ready will skip 1st race. 2nd race is same place anyway. Have about 40. Few bad tosses and lose a lot may just train and keep for next year. Have done that last year and previous years. Many came good. Since the 1st young was hawked many months ago never seen a raptor close around here. Hopefully with the climate change they have moved North? No matter. I am fortunate that out of the 40 30 could get lost and not affect me for next year. Usually get rid of 30 to 50 birds after the racing season. Young mostly. Only way to cut down is to send them. The best will survive (or the luckiest). Oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:46 am

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My second toss tomorrow. Last one was over a week ago from 10 miles. Tomorrow hot and humid but will take them 20 miles anyway. Rest of the week bad weather forecast. Next week all good days. try for a few 30 milers. But 1st race is on the 29th. 150 miles for me. Have to jump them. However, if I do not think they are ready will skip 1st race. 2nd race is same place anyway. Have about 40. Few bad tosses and lose a lot may just train and keep for next year. Have done that last year and previous years. Many came good. Since the 1st young was hawked many months ago never seen a raptor close around here. Hopefully with the climate change they have moved North? No matter. I am fortunate that out of the 40 30 could get lost and not affect me for next year. Usually get rid of 30 to 50 birds after the racing season. Young mostly. Only way to cut down is to send them. The best will survive (or the luckiest). Oh well.
Smile Smile Maybe not impress the purist types Hal Wink Wink some of the above etc Smile Smile. But I get the message lol! lol! lol! as thick as I tend to be at times, unfortunately. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:17 am

Booked the day off and took my young birds to Peterborough this morning 75 miles, as that's where they are racing from this weekend.
16mph East wind, and overcast.
They came home really slow, right out of the West they must have got blown right out, but they all made it home luckily.
They came in 3 batches of 3, the first ones only doing 29mph.


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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:15 pm

glad you got them all steve...we had ours at 22 miles today ,the last stage of training for us ...straight out across country not even half a turn heading for home ...all in the loft on arrival all 23 of them having eaten their awaiting breakfast another few tosses before next weekends race hopefully we can get them their without a strike ,we are racing sundays this year atb
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:09 pm

Coming well Darren, good luck mate.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:22 pm

Same with us daz, first one Chepstow on Saturday then all the rest will be Sunday lib , don't know why because it was originally all Saturday liberations
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:36 pm

Have they gone that to avoid clashing on Saturday with everyone else
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:38 pm

My dad always told me not to train Sundays as there are lots of people shooting.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:04 pm

we go sundays so the skies are a bit clearer we have not had any back injured from shooting but take yer point steve they must shoot over the weekend sometimes weather does not permit then its a Saturday race anyway I do recall our birds getting whacked around Birmingham airport and plenty of birds perished thanks to a jumbo jet ...you just never know what can happen when their on the wing
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:16 pm

Had to settle for 15 miles. Too hazy. All back far as I can tell. 18 mins. May try for 20 or more tomorrow am. If I can get them out before the t storms move in. Noticed a few lice. Borax in the bath soon.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:03 pm

Crap weather where you are Hal lately


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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:10 pm

good luck with the training hal
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:37 pm

Hot hazy humid. Heavy air. Little wind. Took them 20 miles. They were back in 30 mins. 3 were 3 mins behind the bunch. T storms here now. Coming like this will race what is in good feather next week. 150 miles.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:29 am

Let me clarify something here. They are coming from East to West. Lake Erie is a few miles to the South. Wind Turbines on the property and all around here. Visible from the height a pigeon flies. A few small towns to fly over or go around. Villages really. So that is the reason I like to double up the distances. Pigeon has to be stupid to get lost up to 40 miles. The first race is the real start of training. 150 takes an intelligent bird for the first time racing. Jumped from 40. I can lose 30 young birds and still be good for next year. I more fortunate than most though. No cities for them to avoid in early training. Actually would hate to go back to the UK and race. You folks have multitudes of obstacles to over come.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:03 am

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Let me clarify something here. They are coming from East to West. Lake Erie is a few miles to the South. Wind Turbines on the property and all around here. Visible from the height a pigeon flies. A few small towns to fly over or go around. Villages really. So that is the reason I like to double up the distances. Pigeon has to be stupid to get lost up to 40 miles. The first race is the real start of training. 150 takes an intelligent bird for the first time racing. Jumped from 40. I can lose 30 young birds and still be good for next year. I more fortunate than most though. No cities for them to avoid in early training. Actually would hate to go back to the UK and race. You folks have multitudes of obstacles to over come.
Smile Smile Stupid pigeons/40miles Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes How dare you Hal  lol! lol! lol! insult the intelligence of some of my birds as such. Would the moderator's here, if possible Smile Smile do something about Hal, putting my pigeons down in such a harsh manner Wink Wink.  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:35 am

sounds good hal ours will be on the road shortly
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:40 am

Ha ha, I'm with you there knackered.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:37 pm

gave ours another 20 mile toss today ...all home on arrival they were fighting the wind today to keep their line ...another couple of tosses next week mon and tues before their first race next sunday
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:45 pm

All going lovely Darren.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:18 pm

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All going lovely Darren.

thanks steve it makes a change usually have a few bad tosses still time yet yer always on yer toes with youngsters bounce atb
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:10 am

Another hot, humid one. Usual thunderstorms. May get a toss in tomorrow am. Supposed to be fog in the am to start then clearing. 35 mile station. Spot I let them go is ¼ mile from electric transmission lines. Cross country ones. Had the odd problem there before but all in all worth the exposure to the emissions. Toss after that (all going well) will be St. Thomas airport. Near the clubhouse. 40 plus miles. That will be the first city they will fly over. Was hoping for small group tosses later next week but does not look like the weather will cooperate. Oh well.
Tomorrow also stock birds, (few pairs anyway) will be transferred to the Duramax loft. After very much thought decided stock birds it is. Why rock the boat? Only a few pairs in the Stock loft, others in the flying loft. Ulterior motive. Young bird loft and stock loft have a door between them. 12 nest boxes in there. Will dump all young bird eggs and open the door. Should be a great incentive for them. Twice the room.
By the way. Writing this in Apache Office. Not online yet. Costs me for time on the internet ( pay by the megabyte and it gets expensive!) so write here copy and paste. Cheapo!
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:30 am

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Another hot, humid one. Usual thunderstorms. May get a toss in tomorrow am. Supposed to be fog in the am to start then clearing. 35 mile station. Spot I let them go is ¼ mile from electric transmission lines. Cross country ones. Had the odd problem there before but all in all worth the exposure to the emissions.  Toss after that (all going well) will be St. Thomas airport. Near the clubhouse. 40 plus miles. That will be the first city they will fly over. Was hoping for small group tosses later next week but does not look like the weather will cooperate. Oh well.
Tomorrow also stock birds, (few pairs anyway) will be transferred to the Duramax loft. After very much thought decided stock birds it is. Why rock the boat? Only a few pairs in the Stock loft, others in the flying loft. Ulterior motive. Young bird loft and stock loft have a door between them. 12 nest boxes in there. Will dump all young bird eggs and open the door. Should be a great incentive for them. Twice the room.
By the way. Writing this in Apache Office. Not online yet. Costs me for time on the internet ( pay by the megabyte and it gets expensive!) so write here copy and paste. Cheapo!
So Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Smile Smile not only do you get cheapo cigarettes from the Indians Hal Smile Smile etc your also bleeding them blind in the office there. I suspect lol! lol! lol! if your smart, your next loft could be built by the local Apache mob, compliments of the tax payer Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:44 am

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Ha ha, I'm with you there knackered.
Boosey  Smile  Smile I get one report from my first toss etc here after a month, but the brick specialist mentioned a local who just recently had 20 reported on top of the 40 odd he lost from 7k's Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad. May just suggest to him Wink Wink to go bush next time like I did, instead of tossing local. Save on petrol, maybe Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:18 pm

35 miler ok. So many thunderstorms around computer is bogging down. Satellite signal here.
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PostSubject: Re: first toss today   Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:29 pm

halcanada wrote:
Another hot, humid one. Usual thunderstorms. May get a toss in tomorrow am. Supposed to be fog in the am to start then clearing. 35 mile station. Spot I let them go is ¼ mile from electric transmission lines. Cross country ones. Had the odd problem there before but all in all worth the exposure to the emissions.  Toss after that (all going well) will be St. Thomas airport. Near the clubhouse. 40 plus miles. That will be the first city they will fly over. Was hoping for small group tosses later next week but does not look like the weather will cooperate. Oh well.
Tomorrow also stock birds, (few pairs anyway) will be transferred to the Duramax loft. After very much thought decided stock birds it is. Why rock the boat? Only a few pairs in the Stock loft, others in the flying loft. Ulterior motive. Young bird loft and stock loft have a door between them. 12 nest boxes in there. Will dump all young bird eggs and open the door. Should be a great incentive for them. Twice the room.
By the way. Writing this in Apache Office. Not online yet. Costs me for time on the internet ( pay by the megabyte and it gets expensive!) so write here copy and paste. Cheapo!

sounds a good idea hal atb with it
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