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Pigeon World Forum Syndicate Bird takes 44th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final.The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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Pigeon World Syndicate Bird takes 81st Place in the 2017 Final Race, The Bird is Dia Evans Bloodlines and was Bred and supplied by Tumley Lofts Stud.
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How Many YBs Left...? Raypeel-1The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
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PostSubject: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyTue Aug 22, 2017 3:24 pm

how many ybs have members got left at this stage of the yb season, and how many did they start with...?

how many yb races are there left in your club ...?
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyTue Aug 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Up until we had that big hit losing those hens we lost very little, racing we've done pretty good, 1st race we were only 1 down, 2nd race 1 down, but returned a couple of weeks later, 3rd race all home, and this last one we are 3 down, so all in all really pleased, we might send a couple to Epsom this weekend, we'll take a look later in the week, just going to have a look and see what we have left , got some later bred ybs just starting to train and we will look to send them at the comeback races, so happy at the minute
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyTue Aug 22, 2017 4:41 pm

We have 10 young cocks and 11 young hens left.

They have all been raced up to 200 miles + - We started with around 55 young birds.

We have lost a few in training. We lost 8 y/b's in a really bad race where the temperatures got to 42 degree C by mid afternoon. And I have got rid of a few.

I normally like to breed 60 to 80 youngsters each year - Not counting any late breds I might take from the best of that year's racing birds.

If I can end up with 20 at the end of the season - by the time the race/training basket has selected them and I have weeded out a few - I am a happy chappy.

I am not sure yet, about breeding too many youngsters after the old bird racing season has finished, but they can help to boost number if you are a bit low and I think it is a good idea to breed a few from one's best racers of that season. Plus I normally have a few people wanting a few later bred young birds.

Just my thoughts.

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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyTue Aug 22, 2017 4:49 pm

we had 23 when training commenced had well over 25 tosses out to 45 miles and also 4 races and we have 17 ybs left with 4 races to go and the yb classic race with the welsh north rd
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54 racing . 9 in casualty
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyTue Aug 22, 2017 7:18 pm

54 racing . 9 in casualty
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyTue Aug 22, 2017 8:04 pm

What's the casualties Ray, wires or Hawks
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyWed Aug 23, 2017 12:57 am

Well. I bred 40. Have 32 left. Hawk got one, animal got 3. Lost 4 racing. However, does not mean much. Only had two races, 13 in one 15 in another. 115 milers. Won one lost one. 17 left not raced yet. So as last weekend race was canceled, (did not fly previous week) have to get 15 first timers to 205 miles this coming weekend. 115 milers moult does not mean much to me. However, 205 I have to pay attention. Weather is good will take chances. Bad forecast will hold some back. Averages, winning not concerned about. Experience is what they need. BUT! Having said that there has been years when the young were trained and not raced. As yearlings, after a few races they could compete with the others. Not all of course, but the majority. So, it is a question of each fanciers circumstances. You have too many, ship them regardless. I do not ship hoping to lose them. Not enough for the old bird season keep them back. Depends situation, all is flexible as regards methods etc,. I have enough room to keep all I have for next year. To the nest, no more lost, 50 plus old birds. Some folks are not in the same situation.
Selection is critical. Attrition by racing the young the most obvious way to go. Good young birds do make good yearlings and old birds. 80% of the time anyway, I have found. Many, I included, (not any more) breed from birds in the hope that somewhere in the bunch is a champion. Nature is against it. She always wants to level the playing field. Survival of the species. Champion bird is not for her. Too far out of line. So inbreeding the best to the best may fool her. The smaller the gene pool the more rapid the results good or bad. But again, flying large numbers, young or old do support clubs. I am all for fanciers sending many.
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St Peter at the Pearly Gates. 2 Mexicans, 2 Black people. He tells them to wait. Goes and asks God. Should I let them in? Of course God says, all are equal in Heaven! Peter leaves then returns. Tells God, they are gone! Mexicans or blacks? No God, the Pearly gates!
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyWed Aug 23, 2017 2:09 am

halcanada wrote:
Well. I bred 40. Have 32 left. Hawk got one, animal got 3. Lost 4 racing. However, does not mean much. Only had two races, 13 in one 15 in another. 115 milers. Won one lost one. 17 left not raced yet. So as last weekend race was canceled, (did not fly previous week) have to get 15 first timers to 205 miles this coming weekend. 115 milers moult does not mean much to me. However, 205 I have to pay attention. Weather is good will take chances. Bad forecast will hold some back.  Averages, winning not concerned about. Experience is what they need. BUT! Having said that there has been years when the young were trained and not raced. As yearlings, after a few races they could compete with the others. Not all of course, but the majority. So, it is a question of each fanciers circumstances. You have too many, ship them regardless.  I do not ship hoping to lose them. Not enough for the old bird season keep them back. Depends situation, all is flexible as regards methods etc,. I have enough room to keep all I have for next year. To the nest, no more lost, 50 plus old birds. Some folks are not in the same situation.
Selection is critical. Attrition by racing the young the most obvious way to go. Good young birds do make good yearlings and old birds. 80% of the time anyway, I have found. Many, I included, (not any more)  breed from birds in the hope that somewhere in the bunch is a champion. Nature is against it. She always wants to level the playing field. Survival of the species. Champion bird is not for her. Too far out of line. So inbreeding the best to the best may fool her. The smaller the gene pool the more rapid the results good or bad. But again, flying large numbers, young or old do support clubs. I am all for fanciers sending many.
Knackered. Eclipse of the sun yesterday. Did not bother to watch it. Sun goes down every night anyway. See it from above maybe, later.
St Peter at the Pearly Gates. 2 Mexicans, 2 Black people. He tells them to wait. Goes and asks God. Should I let them in? Of course God says, all are equal in Heaven!  Peter leaves then returns. Tells God, they are gone! Mexicans or blacks? No God, the Pearly gates!
Nice little finish here Hal Wink Wink. Poor old God Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes lol! lol! lol! carn't take a trick etc bounce bounce tell him thou, if he replaces the pearly gates up there I will send him a few of our black fellas, who then will just burn them to the ground in a drunken rage Wink Wink before entering paradise as such. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyWed Aug 23, 2017 6:16 am

All wires barr one
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyWed Aug 23, 2017 9:34 am

Do you have many wires around you then Ray, that's a lot to be hit by them, we've got loads on our estate and the birds don't hit them at all
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyWed Aug 23, 2017 1:02 pm

bred 33, 22 left lost more off loft and training than in race, 18 fit at moment rest had hits of various kinds
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 10:09 pm

Head winds so birds fly low hence wire jobs
Plus been hit by bops which scattered them in all directions
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 10:51 pm

peel bros wrote:
Head winds so birds fly low hence wire jobs
Plus been hit by bops which scattered them in all directions

Thanks Ray, makes sense with the b.o.p strikes sending them everywhere
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyFri Aug 25, 2017 10:44 am

That's birds getting hit at race point
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PostSubject: Re: How Many YBs Left...?   How Many YBs Left...? EmptyFri Aug 25, 2017 10:50 am

we had one return this morning flights missing dried blood and other flights damaged ybs still got his rubber on amazing how it got home been missing 3 weeks
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