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    PostSubject: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 9:02 am

    Leading on from the amazing video clip Hal sent in, regarding making one's own probiotics, I want to bring up another myth and that is the use of so-called electrolytes for racing pigeons.

    These 'so called' Electrolytes do not and cannot work for our pigeons. This is not a theory, this is a scientific fact.

    Professional cyclists in races like the Tour de France drink electrolytes WHILST they are racing. You will never see a professional cyclist drinking electrolytes AFTER they have finished a race, because it is completely useless and a total waste of money.

    Electrolytes enable a human athlete to re-dress the amount of liquids lost through perspiration and to counter-act the amount of essential salts and minerals lost during sweating. Once the race has finished, electrolytes are no good to the athlete.

    Human athletes and racing pigeons are completely different - their anatomy, physiology and biology are very different and do not work in the same way. So what makes pigeon fanciers think that, if a product is good for a human athlete WHILST competing, it would be any good to a PIGEON after it has stopped exerting its self - racing, and is back in the loft?

    It is as silly as feeding your birds - THEN letting them out for exercise and expecting them to fly well.

    Just something to think about over the weekend.

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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 10:08 am

    Ive heard this quite a lot at the club, everyone talking about giving their birds electrolytes when they get home, swear by them in fact, but like you Phil, everything I've read about it says completely useless for pigeons after a race, so I'll keep my cash in my pocket thanks
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 10:25 am

    Lofty wrote:
    Ive heard this quite a lot at the club, everyone talking about giving their birds electrolytes when they get home, swear by them in fact, but like you Phil, everything I've read about it says completely useless for pigeons after a race, so I'll keep my cash in my pocket thanks
    Smart man Roy Smile Smile Spin & bling men Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes will not be happy with you I suspect Wink Wink. But most know the game they attempt to play with pigeon flyers amongst others etc. Strange I believe how the poor old rock dove, survived as long as it has without using electrolites amongst other goodies on offer as such. cheers
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 10:29 am

    each to his own I use belgasol only after a hard race would not be without it birds pick up quicker after a hard race or run down after missing for some time I have seen it with my own eyes so that's good enough reason for me to use it ...expensive but the results are fantastic I have had birds on deaths door and turned them around using belgasol for a few days so for me they have their uses at times atb
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 10:29 am

    Lofty wrote:
    Ive heard this quite a lot at the club, everyone talking about giving their birds electrolytes when they get home, swear by them in fact, but like you Phil, everything I've read about it says completely useless for pigeons after a race, so I'll keep my cash in my pocket thanks


    I am glad I could be of some help Lofty.

    Of course, there will be those that are so deeply entrenched in their thoughts that they will just 'poo-poo' what I have said and what the real truth is.

    But hey - As I used to say when I was a college tutor - "You can try and teach them everything you know, but you can't make them learn"!

    Thanks for the support.

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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 10:43 am

    oldstrain wrote:
    each to his own I use belgasol  only  after a hard race  would not be without it  birds pick up quicker after a hard race or run down after missing for some time I have seen it with my own eyes so that's good enough reason for me to use it ...expensive but the results are fantastic I have had birds on deaths door and turned them around using belgasol for a few days so for me they have their uses at times atb



    Darren - it is more likely the vitamins, trace elements and particularly the amino acids that are doing your birds the good - NOT the electrolyte content of this very expensive product.

    I wonder what would happen if you gave the birds that are 'nearly on death's door' a good multi vitamin and mineral mix like Tollyamin Forte 1000.

    It is a physical or biological impossibility that the electrolyte content of whatever you give your birds AFTER they have come back from a race, can do them any good at all.

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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 10:44 am

    oldstrain wrote:
    each to his own I use belgasol  only  after a hard race  would not be without it  birds pick up quicker after a hard race or run down after missing for some time I have seen it with my own eyes so that's good enough reason for me to use it ...expensive but the results are fantastic I have had birds on deaths door and turned them around using belgasol for a few days so for me they have their uses at times atb
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 11:58 am

    same here, use belgasol after hard races, makes me feel better I think Laughing .
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 12:33 pm

    redrog wrote:
    same here, use belgasol after hard races, makes me feel better I think Laughing .


    Yes but does it make the birds feel any better?

    A lot of the things on the market are for the pigeon MEN - not the pigeons!

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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 1:00 pm

    Right on Phil and others! Electrolytes for live stock here are relatively cheap. I have been using them more in he breeding and moulting season than any other time. Why? They get the vitamins and minerals when they need them. I do not buy any product especially made for pigeons. Except grains of course.
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 1:23 pm

    not my style to rubbish other peoples opinions ...I have just said on the topic my findings atb with whatever you do or don't use Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySat Sep 09, 2017 3:30 pm

    Whatever works!! Stick with it!!
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySun Sep 10, 2017 2:31 am

    halcanada wrote:
    Right on Phil and others! Electrolytes for live stock here are relatively cheap. I have been using them more in he breeding and moulting season than any other time. Why? They get the vitamins and minerals when they need them. I do not buy any product especially made for pigeons. Except grains of course.
    Cheap skate Smile Smile "No pigeon products" Wink Wink. What hope has Mr average pigeon flyer etc bounce bounce have of making sense out of the Electrolyte issue, when even the top pigeon Vets differ on there use as such Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes. Example Wink Wink I know one, that is a deciple of using them on race day. Could have even loaded his troughs up this weekend in desperation Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes but my bones tell me thou lol! lol! lol! it's not going to help him all that much Smile Smile.
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySun Sep 10, 2017 10:38 am

    oldstrain wrote:
    not my style to rubbish other peoples opinions ...I have just said on the topic my findings atb with whatever you do or don't use Smile
    OK Smile Smile Unfortunately for me O/S Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes when the spin & bling types, mouth of with waffle etc bounce bounce I tend to speak my piece Smile Smile even if they are world renowned in the market place Wink Wink. cheers
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptySun Sep 10, 2017 1:07 pm

    I suppose yer referring to the big dr W over their lol
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptyMon Sep 11, 2017 8:43 am

    oldstrain wrote:
    I suppose yer referring to the big dr W over their lol
    Who Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes lol! lol! lol! Never heard of him etc Wink Wink is he a pigeon lover, or a pigeon racer O/S Smile Smile. Now !!!  bounce bounce remember the face book champion I mentioned earlier here etc "lost 80 odd" actually I've since been told it was 94 Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad & they all had chip rings on, at around $2.50 a ring  Rolling Eyes   Rolling Eyes . cheers
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptyMon Sep 11, 2017 3:34 pm

    Cheap skate? Thrifty! Example. I shave every few days. Use one time disposable blades. Was having to use two as the blades were plugging up. Solved the problem!! When it plugs rinse in water and clean out the hairs with an old toothbrush! So, one disposable instead of 2 or 3.
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    PostSubject: Re: Electrolytes   Electrolytes EmptyTue Sep 12, 2017 5:47 am

    halcanada wrote:
    Cheap skate? Thrifty!  Example. I shave every few days. Use one time disposable blades. Was having to use two as the blades were plugging up. Solved the problem!! When it plugs rinse in water and clean out the hairs with an old toothbrush! So, one disposable instead of 2 or 3.
    Smile Smile I knew I had a twin out there some where etc lol! lol! lol! Hal. I'm a one hair cut Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes & one packet of disposable blades a year type man also Wink Wink. cheers
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