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PostSubject: What an absolute Rip Off   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:15 pm

Have you seen any adverts in the pigeon comics for some sort of 'book' called "The complete Pigeon Racing Year" by Graham Walker?

I paid £34.00 for this load of papers 'ring bound' together. The pages are not even bound properly like a real hard back or soft back book.

What this publication amounts to (I cannot call it a book) is 60 pages and some photographs which are not very good, held together with a standard spiral binder. And for that, they want £24.50 plus £9.50 p&p to me.

Just a word of warning!

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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:20 pm

complain, tell them your not happy with the "book"
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:02 pm

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complain, tell them your not happy with the "book"


Don't worry David - I will be doing.

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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:44 pm

is the contents/material worth digesting ....if so a page is a page
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:58 pm

Your not the luckiest person Phil.
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:34 am

Content is most important. Phil. You strike me as a person who likes everything organised, precise. Logical. Good for you! Some writings I would complain about but unfortunately there is no way to contact the authors. I mean, no one leaves a signature on a bathroom wall.
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:00 am

Hal - I know exactly who the authors are and you will know them also by name - Graham Walker and Matt Rakes.

I noticed on a previous DVD by Graham Walker that he no longer wears his wedding ring.  Now I read in this new publication that Graham refers to the other person involved in this publication as 'My Partner'. So I guess things have changed for Graham.

I have not had time to really read this thing, but even if the contents are amazing and full of extremely valuable information - which I doubt! £25.00 is a lot of money for something like this.  Below are images of what this publication looks like.

The outside covers are just sheets of transparent plastic and the pages are like these or have pictures and a bit of writing.





Maybe I am over reacting but twenty five pounds for a so-called book is a lot of money to me.  Especially when you think what sort of pigeon books you can get for £25.00.  ALSO - this 'book'only covers Januaru to March, so if you want to cover the whole year it is going to cost you £100.  Honestly.  Is it worth it?  I don't think so.

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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:25 am

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Content is most important. Phil. You strike me as a person who likes everything organised, precise. Logical. Good for you! Some writings I would complain about but unfortunately there is no way to contact the authors. I mean, no one leaves a signature on a bathroom wall.
True about the content Hal Smile Smile. Reminds me of the old Jules Gallez books etc. Spelling was of a 4 year old as such Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes for the most part. But the content there was worth gold Wink Wink from my perspective. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:17 am

Rip off merchants like most of them
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:33 pm

You are absolutely right Ray!

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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:41 am

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Rip off merchants like most of them
Didn't Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Smile Smile quite understand your post Ray Wink Wink Any chance of repeating it again, for us old fellow types  Smile  Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:33 am

Most of them rip us off..stick a pigeon on a bottle and costs you 3 times as much ..UNIKON are the biggest rip off merchants
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:06 am

your right about that ray, a picture of a pigeon on it and it triples......ive also looked at pigeon lofts and garden sheds, there were some the exact same sizes, made with the exact same wood, and sometimes in the same style / layout....and the pigeon loft was 3 times more expensive than the shed.....

its surprising how valuable the word "pigeon " is, isn't it....... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:11 am

Exactly david..for example cod liver oil from pound shop cost 3 pound more from local corn merchant because it's pigeon related..they wonder why people can't afford this game
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PostSubject: Quality sheds   Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:12 am

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your right about that ray, a picture of a pigeon on it and it triples......ive also looked at pigeon lofts and garden sheds, there were some the exact same sizes, made with the exact same wood, and sometimes in the same style / layout....and the pigeon loft was 3 times more expensive than the shed.....

its surprising how valuable the word "pigeon " is, isn't it....... lol!


Hi David

I will be looking for a couple of new lofts (or sheds that I can convert) when we get pack to England - can you give me any contacts please.

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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:24 am

pm sent phil.
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:04 am

pigeon teas etc...a right rip off £10 a box for nettles dandelions echinachea etc...easily sourced at a quarter the price
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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:23 pm

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pigeon teas etc...a right rip off £10 a box for nettles dandelions echinachea etc...easily sourced at a quarter the price


Correct Darren - I buy my real pigeon teas at a quarter of that price and my organic Echinacea tea bags I get from eBay.

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PostSubject: Re: What an absolute Rip Off   Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:55 pm

http://www.myshedplans.com/go/ 12000 sheds. Some free plans.
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