tusked hens

halcanada wrote:

Never even knew about them. Distance or Sprint? By the feathers? Interesting! But will not check my birds. Did a study of eyesign for a few years. Gave it up. Not reliable. Best birds I have , have yellow eyes plus other darker colours. Also of equal merit are the ones with the pearl eye. Also of equal merit are the in betweeners. What about this eye?

Seen this eye before was on a chinese pigeon poster think the pigeon was a white gizzel ????

halcanada wrote:

One of my old favourites. No longer here.

Hal can I ask what this pigeon was best at ????

From a quick look I would say sprint to middle distance more middle BUT I KNOW NOTHING

200 to 400 miles.

just an observation to the eye sign people, as we often see pieds or white flight birds with a bull eye, is this eye of hals with the black mark coming from the pupil across the iris due to the bird being tick eyed...?

Blue bar two white flights.

David wrote:

just an observation to the eye sign people, as we often see pieds or white flight birds with a bull eye, is this eye of hals with the black mark coming from the pupil across the iris due to the bird being tick eyed...?

David I would say thats a speed line mate alot off fast pigeons high velocity birds have that same type off marking

But I KNOW NOTHING

right, thanks for the info don, ive seen this type of eye before.......

Remember David I KNOW NOTHING

But I did know that the pigeon was more a middle distance than a sprinter

halcanada wrote:

Never even knew about them. Distance or Sprint? By the feathers? Interesting! But will not check my birds. Did a study of eyesign for a few years. Gave it up. Not reliable. Best birds I have , have yellow eyes plus other darker colours. Also of equal merit are the ones with the pearl eye. Also of equal merit are the in betweeners. What about this eye?

did we ever find out why this eye was like it was...?

This is interesting. Shrink the pupil.
https://www.facebook.com/100009793129027/videos/401655643504203/

Now that's weird

Aussie eye sign show. Years ago.
http://www.tmakowecki.com/UltBeye.shtml

Well, 2018 is getting here. After much reflection and soul searching, decided on a different approach to 2018 racing. My two best pigeons, cocks are now in the stock loft. Which leaves me lots of hopefuls to fly. The yearlings will go every week when fit. Old birds also but with the 6 top cocks in the stock loft may have a hard time competing. German style flying. Fit they fly. Top few percent remain. Assuming that many will not perform as required, have contacted Tom Mackowecki out West. Origin of the reds here. Looking for 2 to 3 pairs. I have not been smart enough or ruthless enough to eliminate maybe pigeons. If I get some from him will be mid March. He does import a lot of birds. Not a feather merchant but sells in the US. Based on performance. I may get a good deal. The bird on the diploma was bred out of one of his, plus a freebie cock he sent. I won a $1000 and deducted shipping fees and sent him half the money. Far as I was concerned he deserved it. Shit! He was over the moon!! Not because of the money (he has enough) but just the thought that someone would do such a thing. Awaiting an email now. Computer has been off due to thunderstorms.

halcanada wrote:

Aussie eye sign show. Years ago.
http://www.tmakowecki.com/UltBeye.shtml

interesting site hal, tried looking at jack barkels site but theres nothing to see now.....

Speed line in eye?
http://www.thebriconloft.com/en/pigeons-2/detail/red-ace

halcanada wrote:

Aussie eye sign show. Years ago.
http://www.tmakowecki.com/UltBeye.shtml

Bob Flemmings Ultimate Breeding Eye I have bob's book

have read it a few times

Talked with Bob many times before he passed on. On line. Plus couple of phone calls. Not always pleasant! My wife overheard the one conversation. I hung up and muttered "hell! That guy! his way or the highway! Never wrong!" She replied "yes, heard some of it. Superior, dogmatic Limey style. But he is an Aussie." I agreed. Then she said "Sure you are not twins? You both sound the same!"

halcanada wrote:

Talked with Bob many times before he passed on. On line. Plus couple of phone calls. Not always pleasant! My wife overheard the one conversation. I hung up and muttered "hell! That guy! his way or the highway! Never wrong!" She replied "yes, heard some of it.  Superior, dogmatic Limey style. But he is an Aussie."  I agreed. Then she said "Sure you are not twins? You both sound the same!"

One of the true spin doctor types was Mr eye sign Hal The finish for me was when he boasted etc he won 67 races in 67 years. Then threw his lifes work here into the fire .  
*****

We have a guy, US, Myron. Eyesign 101. He and Bob really got at it sometimes. But for believers and non believers, there is some merit to eye sign. Did not Bishop have a book on this subject? One cannot write it off entirely. Like it or not, it is a fanciers tool at times. Two equal birds, what to keep what to cull. All else being equal, better eyed bird (in the fanciers estimation) stays. No one as yet can predict with a good percentage of accuracy, what eyes are best. For breeding or whatever.
Wings, vents, tail feathers and a multitude of other factors fanciers believe are essential. There is no 100% formula. One cannot asses intelligence in pigeons. All else being equal, seems to be the one trait that makes the bird a winner. I do not have any way of rating a pigeons intelligence. Just observation. Looking for ...? Why it is interesting racing them. look for the oddball!

halcanada wrote:

We have a guy, US, Myron. Eyesign 101. He and Bob really got at it sometimes. But for believers and non believers, there is some merit to eye sign. Did not Bishop have a book on this subject? One cannot write it off entirely. Like it or not, it is a fanciers tool at times. Two equal birds, what to keep what to cull. All else being equal, better eyed bird (in the fanciers estimation) stays. No one as yet can predict with a good percentage of accuracy, what eyes are best. For breeding or whatever.
Wings, vents, tail feathers and a multitude of other factors fanciers believe are essential. There is no 100% formula. One cannot asses intelligence in pigeons. All else being equal, seems to be the one trait that makes the bird a winner. I do not have any way of rating a pigeons intelligence. Just observation. Looking for ...?  Why it is interesting racing them. look for the oddball!

Myron if one ever wanted to see 2 blokes have a bum fight over the same thing/issue "eyesign" Bob & Myron were the 2 that left you utterly confused & bewildered etc Hal. Bob at least won 67 races Myron is still waiting I suspect to win his first one .
*****

Myron moved to Florida. Teamed up with a guy to race. Few years ago. Heard nothing since.

halcanada wrote:

Myron moved to Florida. Teamed up with a guy to race. Few years ago. Heard nothing since.

I knew that Hal. My dream moot etc     as many here call them. Jack Barkel. Bob "Mr eye sign" & Myron, with Billy T "The Texan"     as referee . Place/stadium would be rocking "Big time" I suspect   . For those here that don't know/remember Billy T as such     my kind of guy. Spin a spade a 100 differant ways to confuse people, but it will always finish up a spade as such in his view.

I remember Billy T. Few years ago now though!

Think Myron was big friends with one of our members spencerline

Myron was up here years back. Canada. Looked at as small loft of widowhood cocks. Many had won in the Up North Combine. Big competition. According to the owner, Mike V, he did rate them correctly. But again, with 8 cocks, what I would have done is look at the band numbers. Oldest one there is more than likely the best one. Or otherwise would not be there.