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PostSubject: Wind drag etc,.   Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:23 pm

Friend of mine posted this.
Here are some race results.
The Upper Canada National in Ontario Canada was flown for 29 years and involved a joint release of five different combines on a 200 mile front with an average of 3000 birds each year. The race was flown from north to south.The UNC was on the west side and the OVC was on the east with the other three combines mixed between. The attached results show that in 29 years, on a 200 mile front, against 2200 to 4200 birds, lofts in the UNC were never out of the top 100 and the OVC were only out of the top 100 five times (conventional wisdom would predict that with prevailing west winds, the OVC on the east should be the favored location most years - not). On 4 separate years the UNC and the OVC were 1st and 2nd in the race, on a 200 mile front. I accept these results as pretty convincing evidence that losing sleep over winds and loft location, at least in Ontario on the north course, is looking for trouble in all the wrong places.The Upper Canada National ran for 29 consecutive years from 1984 to 2011. The race was 350 to 400 miles on a 200-mile front.
The chart below compares the top finish of the Up North Combine with the top finish of the Ottawa Valley Combine over the 29-year history of the race. UNC won the race 13 times and OVC won it 11 times. On 4 separate races one of the combines won the race and the other combine was 2nd. It can’t get much more fair than that.
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PostSubject: Re: Wind drag etc,.   Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:41 pm

I know nothing about wind drag and lines of flight etc hal, in fact I know very little about pigeons if I`m honest Razz Razz , but ive rarely seen a member of my club, or a member of any local clubs do well in the fed results on a regular basis ......odd time they might get a good one, but I think it all depends on the wind.  Suspect Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Wind drag etc,.   Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:20 am

I fly from East to West. Usually it is a good headwind. Shorter races the speed birds, 40 miles East of me usually clean up. The longer the race the better chance I have. Line of flight. There is the birds preferred line of flight and the fanciers preferred (perceived) line of flight. Side winds etc, alter the course of flight of course. Just too many variables for accurate predictions. A smart intelligent pigeon will not try and kill itself to get home. As all do, they adapt. A good majority will flock fly, follow the leader. They do not have to work as hard. Slipstream. Closer to home they will pull ahead as they are not so tired. Way I understand it anyway. But over a 200 mile front each are basically on their own.
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