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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:38 pm

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I've got to find my rings (when I wake up a little more).  I was pulling out all the rings I bought and.....disaster!  Broke the string holding them together!   Rings under firewood pile, ect.  Glad it is Friday!
Many have been their Rom Wink Wink 2 suggestions etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes the old coat hanger trick bounce bounce or  Smile  Smile I'm an up market type of guy here & so I use a 1/8th welding rod type of thing, bent to suit the purpose as such. cheers

Guess what knackered? I've got quite a bit of 7018 rod that has the flux broken off it. ( from dropping them too). lol! my wife found all the rings.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:43 pm

rom, have you seen hals invention for stopping his water freezing...?
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:48 pm

easifen liquid wormer, good stuff........1 bottle to 1 gallon, did 5 sections, 24 hr treatment. Razz Razz


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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:07 pm

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rom, have you seen hals invention for stopping his water freezing...?

I haven't yet. I'm building a system of my own with a magnetic heater for pipes. I need to bend some flashing to fit over the box though. I've heard of the light bulb in a box trick. I was thinking of going that route also. Maybe if I put a dimmer switch on a 60 watt incandescent bulb, it will allow me to keep the water at 40 degrees f in different cold spells.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:10 pm

I was told not to worm my pigeons at all. The other racers told me that it is too dry here. Several fanciers have wormed them for years without any spaghetti production if you will lol! . The pheasant breeders never seem to have worm issues either.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:26 pm

not sure about that rom, I don't know anything about conditions and worms.........I never used to bother worming mine, and ive heard many fanciers saying they don't worm because their birds don't have worms, but until you treat them with the correct wormer you wont know they have them, I got a shock the first time I wormed mine with the correct stuff, it was like an explosion in a spaghetti factory.


I think worm infestation is greatly under estimated, it is a bigger problem than some fanciers think.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:14 pm

Rom. I use 60 watts now. Fountain still freezes at the top.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:21 pm

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Rom. I use 60 watts now. Fountain still freezes at the top.

That's what I thought Hal. I am going to build a false floor in the box. Jigsaw out a hole so the watered can seat lower. Spray foam the interior around the water with low pressure foam. I'm hoping the water temp will remain warmer higher up the bowl.

I do this beaver trapping. Once I chainsaw through the ice, I build up a shallow bowl, and cover it lightly with spruce boughs. It will keep the ice on in -50F windchills. Worth a shot, I will send a picture of the gear source I'm using. Low profile so the watered can remain lower.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:39 pm


The tub is a little giant rubber three quart. I have never ruined one in thirty years or so. Even with the bucket of a tractor. They are cheap too, 2.99 a piece. I've decided to use them for nest bowls
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:22 pm

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I was told not to worm my pigeons at all.  The other racers told me that it is too dry here.  Several fanciers have wormed them for years without any spaghetti production if you will lol! .  The pheasant breeders never seem to have worm issues either.  

is there not a wormer in the rearing food ?
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:58 pm

Most rearing food pellets or mash or crumbles has DE in it. Kills worms.
Rom. Rubber nest bowls. No absorbtion. Unless one puts in enough sand, grit etc,.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:03 pm

how about drilling some holes in the bottom...?
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:21 pm

Make wooden ones...dont have to be round
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:24 am

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I was told not to worm my pigeons at all.  The other racers told me that it is too dry here.  Several fanciers have wormed them for years without any spaghetti production if you will lol! .  The pheasant breeders never seem to have worm issues either.  

is there not a wormer in the rearing food ?
No wormed in rearing food. The have never had pellets. Only grain
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:26 am

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how about drilling some holes in the bottom...?
That's what I did. About six quarter inch holes. I've got wool to line the nests. Going to wrap them in newsprint.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:29 am

yes that's what ive done in the past rom, wrap the bowls in news paper, keeps the bowl/ybs warm and easy to remove for cleaning...... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:36 am

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Make wooden ones...dont have to be round

I made a few of those too. I don't like them though for some reason.
I just bought these El cheapo fronts. I should have made some, but everything is fluid.
Haven't even screwed them together yet. The cocks got choosey right away.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:38 am

The old bureau looks trashy, but I couldn't help sticking it in the loft. A little extra nest options.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:43 am

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I've got to find my rings (when I wake up a little more).  I was pulling out all the rings I bought and.....disaster!  Broke the string holding them together!   Rings under firewood pile, ect.  Glad it is Friday!
Many have been their Rom Wink Wink 2 suggestions etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes the old coat hanger trick bounce bounce or  Smile  Smile I'm an up market type of guy here & so I use a 1/8th welding rod type of thing, bent to suit the purpose as such. cheers

Guess what knackered?  I've got quite a bit of 7018 rod that has the flux broken off it.  ( from dropping them too). lol!  my wife found all the rings.
Good show Rom Smile Smile got the missus working etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes lol! lol! lol!. Train her well there  Smile Smile & you will go far I suspect Wink Wink Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:44 am

The birds do not care. Cardboard boxes on the floor would do.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:47 am

As long as there happy Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:47 am

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The birds do not care. Cardboard boxes on the floor would do.

I'm going to do that too. One the floor under the 45 degree braces.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:55 am

All they need is their own small space to nest in. Too much room they may have to fight. Smaller space easier to defend. Nest boxes here 24 inches by 16 high. 16 inches deep. 15 boxes (stock loft and yet still some nested on the floor. Whatever makes them happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:59 am

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Most rearing food pellets or mash or crumbles has DE in it. Kills worms.
Rom. Rubber nest bowls. No absorbtion. Unless one puts in enough sand, grit etc,.
I suspect so Hal Smile Smile But Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes if Rom was to drill a few holes in the bottoms etc, then add some small blocks of wood underneath as such or even those chair stoppers people use for them to breath & then use hay/straw type of thing it could all work I suspect. At the end of the day there, a learning curve thing I suspect for Rom, being his first year Smile Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: Decided to pair up !!!   Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:59 am

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All they need is their own small space to nest in. Too much room they may have to fight. Smaller space easier to defend. Nest boxes here 24 inches by 16 high. 16 inches deep. 15 boxes (stock loft and yet still some nested on the floor. Whatever makes them happy.
that's the dimensions I have in there. Think I read that in the archives here. Lots of good info
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