One loft race advice.

seems similar protocol to most one loft races ...interesting about 2 pmv doses did read an article about it a few years ago ...thanks hal

oldstrain wrote:

seems similar protocol to most one loft races ...interesting about 2 pmv doses did read an article about it a few years ago ...thanks hal

The 2 jab trick is the way we do it O/S . Some do the first one in the nest & then a follow up jab around 4 weeks later etc. Others wait till the moult is over & then do it as such. Waiting to see what happens thou when we get the Rota virus vaccine here pigeons could just finish up like pin cushions if we continue to give them more & more jabs so to speak.  

the article I read said they vaccinated twice 2-3 weeks apart ...hows that rota lark down your neck of the woods panning out oz

oldstrain wrote:

the article I read said they vaccinated twice 2-3 weeks apart ...hows that rota lark down your neck of the woods panning out oz

MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm best I not reply to that issue O/S . Time clock is ticking & the best I could suggest is I'm its the blind leading the blind so to speak  compared to last years fiasco etc.

How on earth can vaccinating pigeons within such a short period be of any benefit to the pigeon??

It takes time for a vaccination to have any effect and in the case of within two weeks you might as well give a double dose the first time.

I never vaccinated my young or old birds until as late as possible, the young ones two weeks before racing and the old ones prior to racing and never had any problems at all.

As for many fanciers health problems with their pigeons, they should maybe look at other aspects of how they manage their pigeons, and what preventative and aids to success they use, nearly everything not natural to a pigeons well being can have adverse effects and there are at least 200 on the market.

Nothing can improve the potential performance of a pigeon beyond that which it was born with, the idea is to get the maximum possible and this will not be done long term by using numerous artificial means, long term.

Regards.

personally I vaccinate once at the manufacturers advice which is 6 weeks old ...regards natural well theirs lots of so called natural remedies ie garlic ,vinegar,herbs etc...etc... again you pays yer money and takes yer chance in this game but giving absolutely anything outside of food and water is not natural you cant pick and choose ,however I often observe the woodies eating elderberry ,my tipple is oregano the test results prove its worth also a few other herbs every other day atb

Even as youngsters we used to concoct our own natural SECRET ( that everyone was aware of ] means of success.

Although even then Johnsons Iron Tonic went into the mix as did mallases used for the cows in winter along with several other vegitables and berries etc.

The difference now is many of the aids to win are not based on the natural but money, pigeons are also given too many preventative precautions that were not needed in those days.

Everything has a cause, the natural health of todays pigeons is not half as sound as when I was a boy.


Regards.

Guess it depends were one is located. If no access to fields etc, then greens should be offered. A sod of turf works fine also. Ground not frozen usually dig one in the winter. They eat a lot of the soil also. Never get sickness here.

MISTY wrote:

Even as youngsters we used to concoct our own natural SECRET ( that everyone was aware of ] means of success.

Although even then Johnsons Iron Tonic went into the mix as did mallases used for the cows in winter along with several other vegitables and berries etc.

The difference now is many of the aids to win are not based on the natural but money, pigeons are also given too many preventative precautions that were not needed in those days.

Everything has a cause, the natural health of todays pigeons is not half as sound as when I was a boy.


Regards.
 

Spin & bling Misty has a lot to answer for I suggest in the sport of pigeon racing today etc. Never forget one magic potion I saw on offer etc. 120 herbs/goodies in every spoon full as such      . Just couldn't quite get my head around that one    unfortunately     in how so little of some thing would have a benefit for ones birds as such. didn't really matter all that much thou as the speel on the bottle, said it was like magic & would do wonderful things for the unwary .

Knackered,

What makes me laugh is that there can only be one winner, and if everyone is using the miracle aids to success 99.95% are wasting their time and money.

Regards.

i don't think theirs anything out their that will improve performance but some things definitely aid good health jmo of course and each to his own

4 am this morning. Got up, made a coffee let the two big dogs out. Had a smoke. Normal routine. Listened to the radio. CBC usually has a segment from the BBC. Or Australian radio. Aussie radio was on. A discussion about a birds brain and ability to adapt and increase knowledge. Kookaberra and Butcher birds and such. Adapt to mimicking other birds. Also what caught my attention was that the birds brain is always evolving. Gaining knowledge. So hypothetically, a pigeon races from a young bird then for a number of years there after. If the brain is constantly evolving and learning then surely the longer a pigeon races the smarter it gets? Normal course of events pigeons are stopped at 3 or 4 years. Cannot remember now but there was a fancier who flew them up to around 8 years and still won with them. Food for thought.

MISTY wrote:

Knackered,

              What makes me laugh is that there can only be one winner, and if everyone is using the miracle aids to success 99.95% are wasting their time and money.

Regards.  

Would be interesting to know Misty how much money exactly is spent by pigeon flyers on magic type potions of all descriptions compared to what is spent on entry fees etc. Suspect many of the manufacturies unfortunately have little regard for the sport as such & it all is used just as a money making machine by the producers on average I'm .