Forum for Pigeon Fanciers
 
HomeHome  PortalPortal  CalendarCalendar  GalleryGallery  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  UsergroupsUsergroups  RegisterRegister  Log in  Report a StrayReport a Stray  UK Pigeon SalesUK Pigeon Sales  Jack Barkel Website.Jack Barkel Website.  Friendslofts WebsiteFriendslofts Website  Velocity CalculatorVelocity Calculator  Portal 2Portal 2  ebayebay  
Latest topics
» Weather today
by Knackered Today at 9:47 pm

» Club meeting today
by Knackered Today at 9:37 pm

» This morning on loft.
by Knackered Today at 9:30 pm

» Praise for a change. OFF TOPIC
by Knackered Today at 9:26 pm

» Another off topic...
by Knackered Today at 9:14 pm

» Different methods.
by Knackered Today at 8:57 pm

» Mnfc olr 2018
by oldstrain Today at 7:01 am

» Hen show coming?
by Boosey Yesterday at 9:47 am

» Write to the council
by Knackered Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:50 am

Forum Syndicate
Pigeon World Syndicate Bird takes 81st Place in the 2017 Final Race, The Bird is Dia Evans Bloodlines and was Bred and supplied by Tumley Lofts Stud.
R.P.R.A Certificate.
Pigeon World Forum Syndicate take 81st Place in the 2017 R.P.R.A. Final, with a Pigeon Bred and Supplied by Tumley Lofts Stud.
Who is online?
In total there are 16 users online :: 4 Registered, 0 Hidden and 12 Guests :: 2 Bots

Boosey, David, johnnorm2, Knackered

Most users ever online was 144 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:37 am
Bucktons 2017 Calendar
Pigeon World Forum, Fancier of the Year Trophy.
Top posting users this week
Knackered
 
peel bros
 
Daz
 
fieldwalker
 
MISTY
 
halcanada
 
oldstrain
 
Boosey
 
Similar topics
Statistics
We have 1155 registered users
The newest registered user is whiteashbob

Our users have posted a total of 172673 messages in 11377 subjects
Log in
Username:
Password:
Log in automatically: 
:: I forgot my password
Oldstrain/Darren`s Winner of winners. 2012.
From Fed Topper to Master Chef
The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
John Gibbs young pied/grizzle winner.
Top posters
David
 
Don Webb
 
oldstrain
 
IANYOUNG
 
peel bros
 
Knackered
 
Gaz b
 
birdy2011
 
Rene A
 
halcanada
 

Share | 
 

 One loft race advice.

Go down 
AuthorMessage
halcanada
Youngbird
Youngbird
avatar

Posts : 3436
Join date : 2014-03-11
Age : 78
Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.

PostSubject: One loft race advice.   Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:44 pm

Back to top Go down
View user profile
oldstrain
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 11799
Join date : 2011-01-03

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:44 am

seems similar protocol to most one loft races ...interesting about 2 pmv doses did read an article about it a few years ago ...thanks hal
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Knackered
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 8113
Join date : 2013-03-11

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:23 am

oldstrain wrote:
seems similar protocol to most one loft races ...interesting about 2 pmv doses did read an article about it a few years ago ...thanks hal
The 2 jab trick is the way we do it O/S Smile Smile. Some do the first one in the nest & then a follow up jab around 4 weeks later etc. Others wait till the moult is over & then do it as such. Waiting to see what happens thou when we get the Rota virus vaccine here Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes pigeons could just finish up like pin cushions Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes if we continue to give them more & more jabs so to speak.  cheers
Back to top Go down
View user profile Online
oldstrain
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 11799
Join date : 2011-01-03

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:44 am

the article I read said they vaccinated twice 2-3 weeks apart ...hows that rota lark down your neck of the woods panning out oz Suspect
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Knackered
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 8113
Join date : 2013-03-11

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:46 am

oldstrain wrote:
the article I read said they vaccinated twice 2-3 weeks apart ...hows that rota lark down your neck of the woods panning out oz Suspect
MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes best I not reply to that issue O/S Wink Wink. Time clock is ticking bounce bounce & the best I could suggest is I'm affraid its the blind leading the blind so to speak Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad  compared to last years fiasco etc. cheers
Back to top Go down
View user profile Online
MISTY
Hatchling
Hatchling


Posts : 957
Join date : 2018-01-28
Age : 83
Location : SCARBOROUGH

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:06 am

How on earth can vaccinating pigeons within such a short period be of any benefit to the pigeon??

It takes time for a vaccination to have any effect and in the case of within two weeks you might as well give a double dose the first time.

I never vaccinated my young or old birds until as late as possible, the young ones two weeks before racing and the old ones prior to racing and never had any problems at all.

As for many fanciers health problems with their pigeons, they should maybe look at other aspects of how they manage their pigeons, and what preventative and aids to success they use, nearly everything not natural to a pigeons well being can have adverse effects and there are at least 200 on the market.

Nothing can improve the potential performance of a pigeon beyond that which it was born with, the idea is to get the maximum possible and this will not be done long term by using numerous artificial means, long term.

Regards.



Back to top Go down
View user profile http://albertrosbottom35@outlook.com
oldstrain
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 11799
Join date : 2011-01-03

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:38 pm

personally I vaccinate once at the manufacturers advice which is 6 weeks old ...regards natural well theirs lots of so called natural remedies ie garlic ,vinegar,herbs etc...etc... again you pays yer money and takes yer chance in this game but giving absolutely anything outside of food and water is not natural you cant pick and choose ,however I often observe the woodies eating elderberry ,my tipple is oregano the test results prove its worth also a few other herbs every other day atb
Back to top Go down
View user profile
MISTY
Hatchling
Hatchling


Posts : 957
Join date : 2018-01-28
Age : 83
Location : SCARBOROUGH

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:36 pm

Even as youngsters we used to concoct our own natural SECRET ( that everyone was aware of ] means of success.

Although even then Johnsons Iron Tonic went into the mix as did mallases used for the cows in winter along with several other vegitables and berries etc.

The difference now is many of the aids to win are not based on the natural but money, pigeons are also given too many preventative precautions that were not needed in those days.

Everything has a cause, the natural health of todays pigeons is not half as sound as when I was a boy.


Regards.


Back to top Go down
View user profile http://albertrosbottom35@outlook.com
halcanada
Youngbird
Youngbird
avatar

Posts : 3436
Join date : 2014-03-11
Age : 78
Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:35 am

Guess it depends were one is located. If no access to fields etc, then greens should be offered. A sod of turf works fine also. Ground not frozen usually dig one in the winter. They eat a lot of the soil also. Never get sickness here.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Knackered
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 8113
Join date : 2013-03-11

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:08 am

MISTY wrote:
Even as youngsters we used to concoct our own natural SECRET ( that everyone was aware of ] means of success.

Although even then Johnsons Iron Tonic went into the mix as did mallases used for the cows in winter along with several other vegitables and berries etc.

The difference now is many of the aids to win are not based on the natural but money, pigeons are also given too many preventative precautions that were not needed in those days.

Everything has a cause, the natural health of todays pigeons is not half as sound as when I was a boy.


Regards.
 

Spin & bling Misty Smile Smile has a lot to answer for I suggest in the sport of pigeon racing today etc. Never forget one magic potion Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes I saw on offer etc. 120 herbs/goodies in every spoon full as such  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad. Just couldn't quite get my head around that one Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes unfortunately  bounce  bounce in how so little of some thing would have a benefit for ones birds as such. didn't really matter all that much thou Wink Wink as the speel on the bottle, said it was like magic lol! lol! lol! & would do wonderful things for the unwary Smile Smile. cheers
Back to top Go down
View user profile Online
MISTY
Hatchling
Hatchling


Posts : 957
Join date : 2018-01-28
Age : 83
Location : SCARBOROUGH

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:42 am

Knackered,

What makes me laugh is that there can only be one winner, and if everyone is using the miracle aids to success 99.95% are wasting their time and money.

Regards.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://albertrosbottom35@outlook.com
oldstrain
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 11799
Join date : 2011-01-03

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:55 pm

i don't think theirs anything out their that will improve performance but some things definitely aid good health jmo of course and each to his own lol!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
halcanada
Youngbird
Youngbird
avatar

Posts : 3436
Join date : 2014-03-11
Age : 78
Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:07 pm

4 am this morning. Got up, made a coffee let the two big dogs out. Had a smoke. Normal routine. Listened to the radio. CBC usually has a segment from the BBC. Or Australian radio. Aussie radio was on. A discussion about a birds brain and ability to adapt and increase knowledge. Kookaberra and Butcher birds and such. Adapt to mimicking other birds. Also what caught my attention was that the birds brain is always evolving. Gaining knowledge. So hypothetically, a pigeon races from a young bird then for a number of years there after. If the brain is constantly evolving and learning then surely the longer a pigeon races the smarter it gets? Normal course of events pigeons are stopped at 3 or 4 years. Cannot remember now but there was a fancier who flew them up to around 8 years and still won with them. Food for thought.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Knackered
Oldbird
Oldbird
avatar

Posts : 8113
Join date : 2013-03-11

PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:54 am

MISTY wrote:
Knackered,

              What makes me laugh is that there can only be one winner, and if everyone is using the miracle aids to success 99.95% are wasting their time and money.

Regards.  
Smile Smile Would be interesting to know Misty Wink Wink how much money exactly is spent by pigeon flyers on magic type potions of all descriptions compared to what is spent on entry fees etc. Suspect many of the manufacturies unfortunately have little regard for the sport as such Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes & it all is used just as a money making machine by the producers on average I'm affraid. cheers
Back to top Go down
View user profile Online
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: One loft race advice.   

Back to top Go down
 
One loft race advice.
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Oh how I love my husband (advice on broke flowers)
» Has anyone grown "Tess's Land Race" or other currant tomatoes?
» Looking for advice [Crossbow needed for a movie]
» Water Pump - Advice Needed!
» Need advice on collards in freezing weather

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Racing Pigeons,Show & Fancy Pigeons :: Message Forum :: Introductions & Members Messages.-
Jump to: