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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: One loft race advice. Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:44 pm | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16266 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:44 am | |
| seems similar protocol to most one loft races ...interesting about 2 pmv doses did read an article about it a few years ago ...thanks hal |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14366 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:23 am | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16266 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:44 am | |
| the article I read said they vaccinated twice 2-3 weeks apart ...hows that rota lark down your neck of the woods panning out oz |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14366 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:46 am | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 88 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:06 am | |
| How on earth can vaccinating pigeons within such a short period be of any benefit to the pigeon??
It takes time for a vaccination to have any effect and in the case of within two weeks you might as well give a double dose the first time.
I never vaccinated my young or old birds until as late as possible, the young ones two weeks before racing and the old ones prior to racing and never had any problems at all.
As for many fanciers health problems with their pigeons, they should maybe look at other aspects of how they manage their pigeons, and what preventative and aids to success they use, nearly everything not natural to a pigeons well being can have adverse effects and there are at least 200 on the market.
Nothing can improve the potential performance of a pigeon beyond that which it was born with, the idea is to get the maximum possible and this will not be done long term by using numerous artificial means, long term.
Regards.
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16266 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:38 pm | |
| personally I vaccinate once at the manufacturers advice which is 6 weeks old ...regards natural well theirs lots of so called natural remedies ie garlic ,vinegar,herbs etc...etc... again you pays yer money and takes yer chance in this game but giving absolutely anything outside of food and water is not natural you cant pick and choose ,however I often observe the woodies eating elderberry ,my tipple is oregano the test results prove its worth also a few other herbs every other day atb |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 88 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:36 pm | |
| Even as youngsters we used to concoct our own natural SECRET ( that everyone was aware of ] means of success.
Although even then Johnsons Iron Tonic went into the mix as did mallases used for the cows in winter along with several other vegitables and berries etc.
The difference now is many of the aids to win are not based on the natural but money, pigeons are also given too many preventative precautions that were not needed in those days.
Everything has a cause, the natural health of todays pigeons is not half as sound as when I was a boy.
Regards.
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:35 am | |
| Guess it depends were one is located. If no access to fields etc, then greens should be offered. A sod of turf works fine also. Ground not frozen usually dig one in the winter. They eat a lot of the soil also. Never get sickness here. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14366 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:08 am | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 88 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:42 am | |
| Knackered,
What makes me laugh is that there can only be one winner, and if everyone is using the miracle aids to success 99.95% are wasting their time and money.
Regards. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16266 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:55 pm | |
| i don't think theirs anything out their that will improve performance but some things definitely aid good health jmo of course and each to his own |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:07 pm | |
| 4 am this morning. Got up, made a coffee let the two big dogs out. Had a smoke. Normal routine. Listened to the radio. CBC usually has a segment from the BBC. Or Australian radio. Aussie radio was on. A discussion about a birds brain and ability to adapt and increase knowledge. Kookaberra and Butcher birds and such. Adapt to mimicking other birds. Also what caught my attention was that the birds brain is always evolving. Gaining knowledge. So hypothetically, a pigeon races from a young bird then for a number of years there after. If the brain is constantly evolving and learning then surely the longer a pigeon races the smarter it gets? Normal course of events pigeons are stopped at 3 or 4 years. Cannot remember now but there was a fancier who flew them up to around 8 years and still won with them. Food for thought. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14366 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: One loft race advice. Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:54 am | |
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