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PostSubject: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:49 pm

anyone tried these lights for deterring sparrow hawk, just picked bird up from jeff Kirkland he says it works well for him, more or less like road works lights
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:52 pm

Ask Ray when hes on i know a couple of fanciers in his club use them
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:02 pm

ive a couple of mirrors I put out when the birds are out rog, I reckon it flashes in the sun, and the hawks don't like it.


heard of the flashing lights though, and for those who use them they say it does work, so anything that seems to work is worth doing in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:09 pm

good enough, haven't got bollox to shoot it so going to give them a go.
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:35 pm

I always have my loaded air rifle by me when mine are out, I know theres very little chance of getting them because they are that quick, but just in case the chance arises I`m ready Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:40 pm

same here david, sit there like a redneck on the porch but i know when red mist goes so does my bottle, killing days behind me, seemed to have mellowed with age Smile
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:42 pm

Never seen these lights or anyone using them but will have a look around for them try anything IG it works
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:49 pm

The idea of using flashing lights, disks, mirrors, dummy owls etc; was mooted many years ago, some say they were successful others not.

Choose what you use the raptors will eventually work out that they are harmless to them.

When one of the raptors meets it's end within a very short time another takes it's place, I doubt if there is enough lead to get rid of them all.

I am afraid the raptor problem cannot be solved it is how the sport decides to deal with it as a matter of fact that will be the deciding factor.


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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:39 am

Misty agree with you! 100%! That has to be a first! I have tried all you mentioned. Plus playing the call of an Eagle Owl. Plus animal marker spray across the white rump of pigeons. My solution? Only way I can go is to let young out in to the aviary to observe their surroundings and take note of hawk attacks on the wild birds I feed and feral pigeons in the open shed. The smarter ones absorb what they see and can use it to good use when let out to fly. As stated have YB's hatched last week of December only been out 3 times. Others born since then (2 weaned today) Weather. Should be good enough tomorrow to let out. Lose some? So be it. Usually do but very few. Usually younger ones. If the local hawk knows that after a few attempts at not catching many they tend to go elsewhere. Bird feeder or whatever. They will soon have young to feed. Hawks, raptors. So obviously they will go for the easiest source of food. Smarter young pigeons adapt.
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:23 am

If everyone agreed with each other there would be no point in discussing anything.

I always had completely open loft and always felt that the pigeons learned self preservation, rain, shine, thunder, made no difference to them they went out when they saw fit.

Also having young and old together all the time the young went out when they saw fit and not when I thought they should.

For many I years had no raptor problem at all whilst those on the nearby allotments were having their share.

Then the sparrow hawks started taking my pigeons from the air and not as usual from the ground in most instances in others fanciers cases .

When I had to get let my pigeons go the count was eventually evens, four to them and four to me but I feel my problem would have got worse and become a real problem.

I just wish there was a feasible solution but I cannot think of one.


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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:28 am

Yes we use them all..the owls have to be moved about, I got a few lads them but they don't move them around the garden then they whinge they are no good..we use the cds as well all over our garden as well but the best deterrent me use when we can is , one of us stands in the garden when birds are out and so far haven't been hit but that might be just luck
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:45 am

my birds are never out on their own, especially the ybs.........I`m always stood with them while they are not flying, once they land im over to them.


I know a pigeon man who was stood watching his pigeons, and a hawk shot past him, wings virtually touching him as it passed........went straight through the open door into the loft after the pigeons. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:20 am

biggest problem is next door but one have a 50yd row of 60' conifers the hawk comes out of them doing warp factor 7, don't see it till its on you, lights are going up next week so hey ho. Bloke up the road had kitchen door open, y/b went up, one flew straight into kitchen with sparrow hawk hot on its tail, f------- mayhem for 15mins
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:44 pm

cock spar hawk is not much of a problem ...hen will give you a break very soon then the ybs should be strong/wise enough when she comes back ...I always stay with the birds when their out had a hen fly to the wire door a few year ago I was playing badmington at the end of the garden at the time ...ace serve lol! lol! lol! ambush merchants very cunning usually do a rec before they strike I usually see them here coming up through the gardens just below the guttering of the houses Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:55 am

redrog wrote:
biggest problem is next door but one have a 50yd row of 60' conifers the hawk comes out of them doing warp factor 7, don't see it till its on you, lights are going up next week so hey ho. Bloke up the road had kitchen door open, y/b went up, one flew straight into kitchen with sparrow hawk hot on its tail, f------- mayhem for 15mins
Shouldn't be  lol!  lol!  lol! here Redrog Smile Smile but I see a rather funny side to that scenario as mentioned above Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes but then I'm not the pigeon concerned as such Wink Wink. Here in the killing season, the goss hawks sit above my lofts in the gum trees "100 Ft plus" & wait for a meal Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes but when in a more generous mood I actually have seen them sitting up there with my birds as if they all belong to the one happy family "Strange". cheers
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:19 am

See!! They are telling you to feed the pigeons better!!
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:54 pm

halcanada wrote:
See!! They are telling you to feed the pigeons better!!

lol! Think id shoot the bludgers...in fact i know i would Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: flashing lights   Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:51 am

fieldwalker wrote:
halcanada wrote:
See!! They are telling you to feed the pigeons better!!

lol! Think id shoot the bludgers...in fact i know i would Twisted Evil
Easy, easy to say etc FW Smile Smile but I live in a green belt, birdy loving area Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes & the blast from a shot gun as such I'm  affraid wouldn't bring that neighbourly love factor to the fore I suggest Wink Wink. cheers
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