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PostSubject: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptyFri Jul 06, 2018 10:07 am

had my ybs out yesterday, I`m now leaving them out a few hours to please them selves.....but when It came to calling them in, I noticed one was missing, I thought it will be back later.

anyway a bit later on I had to go out, so went out into the street and saw a pigeon on the path, went over to it and it was mine that was missing, there was no sign of injury, no blood or damage, just laid dead on the pavement. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

the bird was under telephone wires, but there was no damage to it at all

any thoughts anyone ?
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptyFri Jul 06, 2018 12:28 pm

Could be a heart atttack but most probably a broken kneel David, sorry about that . I also had a well trained young bird that didn’t come back when I let them out yesterday.
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptyFri Jul 06, 2018 12:34 pm

I hate to loose birds like that steve, I don't like loosing them anyway, but when they are out enjoying them selves flying around for them to just die....but you got to let them out havnt you. Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptyFri Jul 06, 2018 2:21 pm

Yeah the poor things have to run the gauntlet of danger every time they go out, if it’s not one thing it’s another.
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptyFri Jul 06, 2018 9:29 pm

Could have been hit by a vehicle David which could leave no visual signs, just hit by the side and knocked onto the path.

Over the years every fancier will lose some of their pigeons for many different reasons many will never know how or why.

I am afraid it is part and parcel of the sport.

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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySat Jul 07, 2018 1:36 am

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Could have been hit by a vehicle David which could leave no visual signs, just hit by the side and knocked onto the path.

Over the years every fancier will lose some of their pigeons for many different reasons many will never know how or why.

I am afraid it is part and parcel of the sport.

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Maybe, maybe not Misty Wink Wink my local experience tells me Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad they splatter far & wide, when hit by a car etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes especially when heading down a freeway bounce bounce at ground level into traffic doing 100 odd kilo metres per hour Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySat Jul 07, 2018 9:19 am

Knackered, I think the area where David lost his pigeon will not allow excessive speeds, I have seen road kills that are almost unrecognisable and others with no visual signs of injury, if the pigeon just caught the side of a vehicle it could have killed it but only bruising that is not obvious would be the case.

The thing is it was very bad luck and not a very pleasant way to lose a potential winner.


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I’ve just had mine reported s few miles away David, very strange.
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I wonder if its anything to do with the heat steve.......?
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySun Jul 08, 2018 1:28 pm

You could be on the right track David, the weather is affecting humans who have control of many things, the pigeons have not, the rascing pigeon depends on the fancier concerned.

Dehydrtation can be a problem at any time but in this weather????.


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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySun Jul 08, 2018 2:07 pm

may have hit something trying to avert a predator ...had one reported similar last year very promising yb to ,its never nice to find them like that or indeed with some of the injuries they return with
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptyMon Jul 09, 2018 8:53 am

I thought that myself Darren, no marks or damage to the bird, maybe trying to escape a hawk attack.......flown into something.

the others were calm though, so whatever it was didn't seem to bother them...
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I thought that myself Darren, no marks or damage to the bird, maybe trying to escape a hawk attack.......flown into something.

the others were calm though, so whatever it was didn't seem to bother them...
Sorry about your yb David i let mine out early mornings mostly think its too hot later in day but i would be upset if it was one of mine
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im thinking about letting mine out early morning denise, see if they will fly better.......... scratch study
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im thinking about letting mine out early morning denise, see if they will fly better.......... scratch study
Hi David im not a pro like your lot but weather we have been having i think its better for birds i let mine out about 7.30 /8.00 some come back after back after about a hour some dont but i leave water out for them but theres one cheeky sod dont come back till next day allways same one and ive found theres not a lot of wood pigeons out early mornings
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySat Jul 14, 2018 8:28 pm

ive quite a lot of wood pigeons around me denise, also crows and magpies, but they have never bothered my pigeons in any way.....even the squirrels go about their business and don't interfere with the pigeons....the pigeons don't give them a second glance, probably because they are used to seeing them every day .. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySun Jul 15, 2018 10:14 am

You have some very lazy wood pigeons denise, ours are round the bird table waiting to feed on the feed put out for the small birds and adept at clinging onto the small feeders and getting the food from the small feeders, at day break.

There is no point in attempting to stop them as if you frighten them away you also frighten the small birds.

At this time the wood pigeons will still be breeding and after food at day break.

My wife puts wheat out every day for the wood pigeons but they still go for the small seed first.


Never had a problem with wood pigeons when racing nor with the doves the latter sometimes went into the loft.

There appears no hard and fast rules in nature regarding the habits of animals, denise, and that is what makes matters more interesting.


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ive quite a lot of wood pigeons around me denise, also crows and magpies, but they have never bothered my pigeons in any way.....even the squirrels go about their business and don't interfere with the pigeons....the pigeons don't give them a second glance, probably because they are used to seeing them every day .. Very Happy
Love the rock doves types here David Wink Wink you can have my magpies & crows if you like thou Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes as I hate them, especially the crows with their noise etc as they disturb sadly all my native parrots here which I get great pleasure from as such  Smile  Smile.
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your too fussy knackered, you've been spoilt living there....... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySun Jul 15, 2018 1:55 pm

we give the woodies a bit of barley each day for a treat I love seeing the young woodies just after they have left the nest so we give them a food source of a cheap barley all year round ,they used to roost in the elderberry tree in the corner of the garden but council took it down its replenishing itself nicely now though Very Happy
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[quote="MISTY"]Hi Misty the wood pigeons are not lazy but crafty they pinch my hens food but what it is with me ive got that funny feeling if they are flying about when i let my pigeons they will just just fly round with them and go in trees and perch up they are that daft lol theres a few that dont come home till next day
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denise, you will find there is only one thing stranger than folk and that is a pigeon, that is what makes them so loveable and entertaining, If you do not intend racing and just having them as friends and pets you can very easily make them tame by using food as a means, peanuts being the best, but just as a come on and not as a basic feed.

You do not have to starve them , even with a fully belly they will come to you for a pea nut if you get them used to a means of letting them know you have them to hand.

If you are just having them as pets then you can use a basic cheap mixture as their main feed.

You could also make a cat proof entry for any that are late commers, it would stand the weight of a pigeon but not anything heavier.

But just think how dull it would be if everything went as we wanted.

Good Luck.

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PostSubject: Re: YB Dead....   YB Dead.... EmptySun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 pm

MISTY wrote:
denise, you will find there is only one thing stranger than folk and that is a pigeon, that is what makes them so loveable and entertaining, If you do not intend racing and just having them as friends and pets you can very easily make them tame by using food as a means, peanuts being the best, but just as a come on and not as a basic feed.  

You do not have to starve them , even with a fully belly they will come to you for a pea nut if you get them used to a means of letting them know you have them to hand.

If you are just having them as pets then you can use a basic cheap mixture as their main feed.

You could also make a cat proof entry for any that are late commers, it would stand the weight of a pigeon but not anything heavier.

But just think how dull it would be if everything went as we wanted.

Good Luck. was going to make a cat proof entry but hubby got really ill so thats had to put that on hold that but thats my next job

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Maybe so Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 50 odd years ago David Wink Wink I had the choice etc bounce bounce live were the pollution will slowly kill you sadly or wake up of a morning smelling the eucalyptus trees in an abundance as such. I would suggest Smile Smile I have no regrets with the choice I made back then, fortunately  Smile  Smile.
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