One loft results

Just looked at latest training toss and our birds look to have done well, 7th, 128 and a 3rd one in as well, can’t find our 4thbird though

Thats good

its not there roy it went missing some time ago

You are still doing well with three left, I bet far better than some.

I was amazed when reading the RPRA One Loft report.

I had no idea they were on the Darkness system.

Why on earth should you interfere with nature when all the pigeons are (said) treated the same.

No one knows if it adversely affects a pigeons young life and afterwards.

And giving tonics etc;

A One Loft race gives an opportunity to find the healthiest and best pigeons if they are subjected to the basics, deviate and the best could be adversely affected.

Too much nonsense is associated with the wing and moult, I have won races with pigeons having two main flights and the body feathers moulting at the same time, it is what the feathers are on that matters and how the pigeon is treated.

Regards.

My thoughts, and I know straight away not everyone will not see it this way, is competitors will be sending their best possible YB's from their best breeders at considerable expense either as individuals or a syndicate.

The one loft organizers have a duty to ensure all the entries have the best possible equal chance of winning, especially the final race which is what it's all about. Not just sending but preparing them. If they were left natural then come final race day they're going to be in various stages of moulting, some entries undoubtedly having an advantage, and some beaten before they even get to the pannier.

By having all entries on the darkness the pigeons will be in the best feather, full adult body cover and most likely a full wing for racing mid-September into whatever the weather conditions throw up on the day, probably from at least 250 miles or more. More of a level playing field I reckon.

My view is sending young birds body moulting with bald heads, ears showing, and growing their last few big flights to 250 - 300 miles or more, mid-September into what could be further testing with a cold head wind, is cruelty. In your own loft you wouldn't send them if you cared about pigeons but because you paid into a one loft race you want a race for your money.

So in my case I see why it's beneficial, especially in a one loft scenario, but I also understand it's not everyone's cup of tea. Best wishes!

Sensible post barnie and can see the merit in using darkness for one loft racing

oldstrain wrote:

its not there roy it went missing some time ago

Bad news that daz, any idea what happened or was it just one of those things

they had a hawk strike and lost over 50 ybs think it got lost then

oldstrain wrote:

they had a hawk strike and lost over 50 ybs think it got lost then

didn't they tell you it was still there after that Darren ...? I remember you asking them if it was there because it wasn't showing on the list, and if I remember right they said it was there but just not been added to the list....

they obviously got it wrong david this is when it went missing originally and was double posted with another bird ,the other bird it was posted with is still there but ours has been lost

there at Cheltenham again today must be 75/80 miles to the one loft

basrnie,
Can well understand your sentiments regarding the darkness system.

However, if all were entered into the loft at the same time all would be, if healthy and normal, in exactly the same state in the moult, you can have the late moulters etc; but they are exceptions.

I have had very few pigeons that have not gone through a moult in a gradual manner and if left to nature will be in a condition to enable them to do what is required according to the time of the year.

The moult is one of the things that can be affected by that fed to them, fed wrongly and they can and will either fall to pieces or stall in the moult.

Perhaps a better idea would be to enter the pigeons into the loft giving them time to go through the mould naturally, taking into account we can have better racing weather in October/November.

Flock treatment of any kind can help some and be detrimental to others, those that would suffer most would be the naturally healthy ones.



Regards.

17th and 33rd first 60 are home

Promising start

yes it is barney i had a call from my friend in wales and the nest mate of our first bird won their first yb race ...all our 3 entries are home now

Sorry about spelling barnie.

Regards.

oldstrain wrote:

17th and 33rd first 60 are home

yes it is a promising start, and also a good sign the nestmate to the first birds was 1st club.......might get a bit more interesting now

well done on breeding our 33rd place and the 1st club Darren

A very good start Lads

barnie wrote:

Promising start

True But 60 odd home has me concerned some what I'm .

That Mealy is doing us proud lads, well done daz

Knackered wrote:

barnie wrote:

Promising start

True But 60 odd home has me concerned some what I'm .

better for us knackered, 3 of the 60 birds are ours.........

think their was about 250 birds home last night out of 370 they seem to be thinning out fast...think they go with the staffs fed for hotspots and fjnal

David wrote:

Knackered wrote:

barnie wrote:

Promising start

True But 60 odd home has me concerned some what I'm .

better for us knackered, 3 of the 60 birds are ours.........

Oh so true David Reminds me some what of when the chook farmer types here I've mentioned loose them by the basket full as such. The little fat bloke & myself a bucket loads of tears for them all, would you believe etc .

Anyone know when the first hotspot race is ?

next Saturday with the north staffs fed