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Lofty Youngbird

Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
 | Subject: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:11 am | |
| Just looked at latest training toss and our birds look to have done well, 7th, 128 and a 3rd one in as well, can’t find our 4thbird though
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peel bros Oldbird


Posts : 10116 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 54 Location : south shields
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:12 am | |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:41 pm | |
| its not there roy it went missing some time ago
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MISTY Youngbird

Posts : 1525 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 83 Location : SCARBOROUGH
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:26 pm | |
| You are still doing well with three left, I bet far better than some.
I was amazed when reading the RPRA One Loft report.
I had no idea they were on the Darkness system.
Why on earth should you interfere with nature when all the pigeons are (said) treated the same.
No one knows if it adversely affects a pigeons young life and afterwards.
And giving tonics etc;
A One Loft race gives an opportunity to find the healthiest and best pigeons if they are subjected to the basics, deviate and the best could be adversely affected.
Too much nonsense is associated with the wing and moult, I have won races with pigeons having two main flights and the body feathers moulting at the same time, it is what the feathers are on that matters and how the pigeon is treated.
Regards.
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barnie Hatchling


Posts : 728 Join date : 2012-07-25
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:03 pm | |
| My thoughts, and I know straight away not everyone will not see it this way, is competitors will be sending their best possible YB's from their best breeders at considerable expense either as individuals or a syndicate.
The one loft organizers have a duty to ensure all the entries have the best possible equal chance of winning, especially the final race which is what it's all about. Not just sending but preparing them. If they were left natural then come final race day they're going to be in various stages of moulting, some entries undoubtedly having an advantage, and some beaten before they even get to the pannier.
By having all entries on the darkness the pigeons will be in the best feather, full adult body cover and most likely a full wing for racing mid-September into whatever the weather conditions throw up on the day, probably from at least 250 miles or more. More of a level playing field I reckon.
My view is sending young birds body moulting with bald heads, ears showing, and growing their last few big flights to 250 - 300 miles or more, mid-September into what could be further testing with a cold head wind, is cruelty. In your own loft you wouldn't send them if you cared about pigeons but because you paid into a one loft race you want a race for your money.
So in my case I see why it's beneficial, especially in a one loft scenario, but I also understand it's not everyone's cup of tea. Best wishes! |
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Lofty Youngbird

Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:07 pm | |
| Sensible post barnie and can see the merit in using darkness for one loft racing |
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Lofty Youngbird

Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:08 pm | |
| - oldstrain wrote:
- its not there roy it went missing some time ago
Bad news that daz, any idea what happened or was it just one of those things |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:57 pm | |
| they had a hawk strike and lost over 50 ybs think it got lost then |
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David Oldbird


Posts : 33065 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:39 pm | |
| - oldstrain wrote:
- they had a hawk strike and lost over 50 ybs think it got lost then
didn't they tell you it was still there after that Darren ...? I remember you asking them if it was there because it wasn't showing on the list, and if I remember right they said it was there but just not been added to the list.... |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:04 am | |
| they obviously got it wrong david this is when it went missing originally and was double posted with another bird ,the other bird it was posted with is still there but ours has been lost |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:02 am | |
| there at Cheltenham again today must be 75/80 miles to the one loft |
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MISTY Youngbird

Posts : 1525 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 83 Location : SCARBOROUGH
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:48 am | |
| basrnie, Can well understand your sentiments regarding the darkness system.
However, if all were entered into the loft at the same time all would be, if healthy and normal, in exactly the same state in the moult, you can have the late moulters etc; but they are exceptions.
I have had very few pigeons that have not gone through a moult in a gradual manner and if left to nature will be in a condition to enable them to do what is required according to the time of the year.
The moult is one of the things that can be affected by that fed to them, fed wrongly and they can and will either fall to pieces or stall in the moult.
Perhaps a better idea would be to enter the pigeons into the loft giving them time to go through the mould naturally, taking into account we can have better racing weather in October/November.
Flock treatment of any kind can help some and be detrimental to others, those that would suffer most would be the naturally healthy ones.
Regards.
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:34 am | |
| 17th and 33rd first 60 are home |
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barnie Hatchling


Posts : 728 Join date : 2012-07-25
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:43 pm | |
| Promising start  |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:47 pm | |
| yes it is barney i had a call from my friend in wales and the nest mate of our first bird won their first yb race ...all our 3 entries are home now |
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MISTY Youngbird

Posts : 1525 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 83 Location : SCARBOROUGH
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:31 pm | |
| Sorry about spelling barnie.
Regards.
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David Oldbird


Posts : 33065 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:34 pm | |
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jet2013uk Hatchling


Posts : 260 Join date : 2017-08-06 Age : 30 Location : york
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:54 pm | |
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Knackered Oldbird


Posts : 8678 Join date : 2013-03-11
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:46 am | |
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Lofty Youngbird

Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:04 pm | |
| That Mealy is doing us proud lads, well done daz |
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David Oldbird


Posts : 33065 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:19 pm | |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:02 pm | |
| think their was about 250 birds home last night out of 370 they seem to be thinning out fast...think they go with the staffs fed for hotspots and fjnal |
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Knackered Oldbird


Posts : 8678 Join date : 2013-03-11
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:57 am | |
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Lofty Youngbird

Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:06 am | |
| Anyone know when the first hotspot race is ? |
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oldstrain Oldbird


Posts : 12007 Join date : 2011-01-03
 | Subject: Re: One loft results Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:56 am | |
| next Saturday with the north staffs fed |
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