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The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
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PostSubject: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:59 am

we are racing from stratford today just waiting on a liberation we sent 11 ybs ...also had to sign a form to declare the birds were vaccinated and no ill effects from circo virus it all seemed very official ,has any other club secretarys or members had to sign such ,I don't mean yer yearly vaccination sheet this was another form
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:55 am

Good luck daz, hope you get them all buddy,

We’ve not sent yet but I’ve haven’t seen anyone signing anything when we’ve been marking the YBS
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:37 am

good luck Darren, I hope you get good returns and a good result......


no, I didn't have to sign anything, just showed vaccination form.
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:36 pm

oldstrain wrote:
we are racing from stratford today just waiting on a liberation we sent 11 ybs ...also had to sign a form to declare the birds were vaccinated and no ill effects from circo virus it all seemed very official ,has any other club secretarys or members had to sign such ,I don't mean yer yearly vaccination sheet this was another form
nope signed nothing over and above usual
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:29 pm

Goodluck
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:01 pm

I’ve not signed anything Darren.
Good luck mate.
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:42 pm

How’s your luck daz, good returns
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:35 am

well it seems all the local clubs here have signed a form maybe its coming soon to your clubs maybe theirs been a local outbreak but nothing I have heard it seems to be regards circo virus and vaccinating for pmv...now regards our race if you could call it that ...it was awful massive losses down the club most members getting 1/3 returns 5/15 3/9 etc ...and ourselves 4/11 and 1 returned a few hours ago so at present 5/11 result not know yet but as I do the clocks can safely say we are not in the result and times very very slow most members just clocking the 1 bird which tells you what a awful race it was from 60 miles No
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:29 am

Terrible, nothing worse than disaster from first race .. hope more return
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:37 pm

sorry to hear that Darren, it seems to be happening all over, its all I read about.....everyone having bad races and losses.
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:55 pm

do you think a racing batch could get hit by a hawk or hawks, go into blind panic then some of these eventually encounter another liberation where the pigeons that haven't been attacked pick up on the panic and fear then on and on it goes till massive areas of the country have pigeons racing heads down in blind panic and out to sea? even though only a small amount have actually encountered a hawk. Bit like elephant or cattle stampede perhaps?
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm

So sad... But then the saddest thing is surely, too many chanced it hoping that their results would be better.
As I posted last week... Time is now to decide. You know, or may even feel certain that it's going to be a bad one... Look in the mirror and decide.
Also I believe in the adage, 'There is always next week, because the best birds are N the loft.

I never , or very seldom, if one goes back many years ago, raced the first two old bird races. 'when in the wind is East, it's no good for man or beast'. that's as true today as it has ever been … oh for the wing and a prayer. I made sure I wasn't in the combined and old bird averages … too many good birds are chanced and Lost I believe sending good over raced, or not ready / able to go.
If, as the old time flyers said and did 'I may send an old experience hen or cock bird … just for the averages'.
Time was when we had no money to train. But loft fit birds went into the first (65miles) or second race(96 miles). Or waited for the come back races. Most split their team..
Club racing meant you had a small team to fly the complete programme, and you did. Races for the 'Race' you wanted or was most interested in winning. Berwick for Lerwick was good, they had a rest in between etc.
Young birds once started flew the longest races. Seasons end you had a problem deciding which ones would have a nest box, or even a perch. No one never added the former, birds had had to earn their place.
let's face it, this 'I must race at all cost' is a great cost! No two ways about that.
the cobblers of 'If other birds can / or did do it, then mine should have too'! That in reality is so silly it is beyond logical comprehension. JMO
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm

I am certain peregrine strikes are to blame it sends them into a panic scattering everywhere and indeed some latch onto other groups and just fly themselves out so they have nothing left to give ...no more have returned just the 1 this morning and he had a pop lost a lot of weight tired out but will be fine ,on we go but with a much depleted team but luckily have 6 late breds to fill the gap and try and do something with even if they only see the club trainer this year it would be something we also have another 13 ybs left 2 of which are recovering from injury ...oh the joys of pigeon racing lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:51 pm

Daz wrote:
So sad... But then the saddest thing is surely, too many chanced it hoping that their results would be better.
As I posted last week... Time is now to decide. You know, or may even feel certain that it's going to be a bad one... Look in the mirror and decide.
Also I believe in the adage, 'There is always next week, because the best birds are N the loft.

I never , or very seldom, if one goes back many years ago, raced the first two old bird races.  'when in the wind is East, it's no good for man or beast'. that's as true today as it has ever been … oh for the wing and a prayer. I made sure I wasn't in the combined and old bird averages … too many good birds are chanced and Lost I believe sending good over raced, or not ready / able to go.
If, as the old time flyers said and did 'I may send an old experience hen or cock bird … just for the averages'.
Time was when we had no money to train. But loft fit birds went into the first (65miles) or second race(96 miles). Or waited for the come back races. Most split their team..
Club racing meant you had a small team to fly the complete programme, and you did. Races for the 'Race' you wanted or was most interested in winning. Berwick for Lerwick was good, they had a rest in between etc.
Young birds once started flew the longest races. Seasons end you had a problem deciding which ones would have a nest box, or even a perch. No one never added the former, birds had had to earn their place.
let's face it, this 'I must race at all cost' is a great cost! No two ways about that.
the cobblers of 'If other birds can / or did do it, then mine should have too'! That in reality is so silly it is beyond  logical comprehension. JMO

with all due respect daz if yer waiting for ideal conditions on this island then you could be in for a long wait ...the weather moves in very quickly for us...yesterdays forecast was pretty good when we basketed we never raced Saturday or sunday so I sent them but we liberated too early imo and the cloud and a few showers came more inland as forecast , I sent healthy pigeons coming well in training and loft flying near 2 hours,sometimes you get stung and that's it and all about it you pays yer money and all that ,every club member sent all 12 and some astute and careful flyers to f it had looked a bad race I can assure you I am one that wont send but sometimes the forecast changes very quickly
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:54 pm

can members only send up to 12 birds in your club Darren ...?
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:01 pm

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can members only send up to 12 birds in your club Darren ...?

sorry david I meant all our 12 members sent to the race...we have a 15 bird limit fee and a +30 bird fee we pay a yearly fee for our racing ...I am a 15 bird limit member
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm

True Old strain. Indeed on a good day one can release some on a toss , then another batch 15 minutes later with complete opposite results.

However I was referring to the Forecasts, and how clubs were deciding when to lib if week - end, or even Monday. now I believe something there tells us that there is a very good chance of a poor race. Time before to decide. clever am I if all goes good... sad... if not.
A convoyer and race controller at the beginning of the old bird season - this year - kept them back. On the Monday they brought the birds back. All around the returns was horrendous of those that went up! Would you think that most would be happy? I congratulating them saying Many birds that would have been lost will have another chance this, or next week - end.
No they were slagged off with a vengeance.
Biggest silliness is surely from these fancier that love their pigeins being 'I keep my pigeons to race! etc. etc.
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:24 pm

convoyers should always be cautious and give the pigeons the benefit of the doubt,i actually applied to be race controller and will apply again for next season and if it was me I would have liberated yesterday around lunchtime for what should have been no more than a 90 minute race the heat was not on yesterday as of late so holding until 1pm was no big deal and to my knowledge and from what I could see and hear we liberated in complete cloud cover with intermittent showers in the area ,not really good for a yb liberation atb
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:19 pm

How did you get on daz when the clocks were done, any more home
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:46 pm

1 more the next morning think we were 10th club
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:33 pm

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How did you get on daz when the clocks were done, any more home

I no longer race. I sent - well took some up to Scotland for a new starter. The others went to Ireland just this June past.
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:21 pm

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How did you get on daz when the clocks were done, any more home

I no longer race. I sent - well took some up to Scotland for a new starter. The others went to Ireland just this June past.

its ok m8 he meant me
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:58 am

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How did you get on daz when the clocks were done, any more home

I no longer race. I sent - well took some up to Scotland for a new starter. The others went to Ireland just this June past.

its ok m8 he meant me
Smile Smile Smile Smile we tend to make allowances here etc O/S Wink Wink I've found at times, some what  bounce  bounce  when the fingers/brain have an issue with the co-ordination scenario/trick Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: stratford upon avon   Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:48 am

Gone past sometimes here mate... now odd times I get it right lol Very Happy
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