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PostSubject: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:06 pm

just gone in loft , theres a pigeon and one of its eyes is swollen and bulging, looks like the eye its self.......im squeamish, nearly passed out.

any help please ???
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:21 pm

david I guess first thing is to isolate it in a basket or nestbox if you haven't already. Do you think it's had a nasty peck direct into its eyeball? can you put a photo up?
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:01 pm

could be a number of things a pic would be best
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:12 pm

just got phone on charge, will take picture asap.

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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:35 pm


not the best of pictures, coming dull here, any help / advise is welcome .....











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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:14 pm

ornithosis ? tumour ? looks like a hen has she recently been paired and maybe cock has gone a bit overboard driving her to nest,personally I think the 1st option is most likely jmo
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:48 pm

yes she is a hen Darren, whats ornithosis, and can it be cured...?
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:38 pm

yes it can david chlamydia is the name of the bacteria that causes it have you checked the birds beak inside and the slit in the roof of the mouth I call it the cleft but not sure of correct terminology anyway check that its clear and see if theirs reddening of the throat these could be indications to ...its linked to respiratory disease david and often their is eye swelling and sometimes discharge I have never experienced it myself so don't shoot the messenger lol! hopefully someone who has experienced it will come forward but a respiratory treatment is advised other than a injury or tumour I cant think what it could be ,I have something here if you want to try it I will send it up just let me know ,if its what I suspect it will sort it... I don't like to treat but sometimes its required ,be careful its contagious to humans
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:11 pm

if you look closely at the eye it appears the damage is blood related and more like peck damage to the cere, if so it would normally cure its self unless infection set in.

A with all pigeon problems one only has to look it up on the internet, every ailment is covered'

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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:22 pm

if only it were that simple
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:51 pm

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if only it were that simple
True O/S Wink Wink if only etc Smile Smile. Put forward 4 options as such Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Colloidal silver straight in the eye for three days, by a dropper as such, the old spit trick Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes or a tea bag type of thing Wink Wink. 4th option Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad could maybe cost an arm & a leg at the end of the day bounce bounce that being, a visit to a friendly type Vet Smile Smile that doesn't drive a rolls lol! lol! lol! when visiting his customers Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:55 pm

To me it just looks like it has been pecked quite a few times.

We had the same trouble last year when we had to keep our birds in baskets when we moved back from frogland.

The hen in question lost one of her eyes.

First thing David - get her out of the way - as already stated, put her in a box on her own or a basket.

Bathe her eye with a MILD solution of salty water and then gently pat dry. Not much else you can do unless you take her to the vet, but most vets want a pot load of money and don't really know what they are doing.

I suggest you treat her at home as I have stated and trust that the eye will recover. Even though it doesn't look very good, I don't think it is too bad.

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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:05 pm

thanks for the help and advise everyone, tomorrow I will try and treat it ...........fingers crossed she recovers.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:06 pm

Had a stock hen lose an eye in similar circumstances, never bothered her either flying or breeding
these things are the normal part of keeping any animal, you cannot tell them what to do and they are not all angels.


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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:35 am

JMO. Pecked eye. Isolate and leave as is.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:03 am

Had a hen like that a few months ago and got drops from the chemist which put it right
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:31 am

peel bros wrote:
Had a hen like that a few months ago and got drops from the chemist which put it right

the human ones for conjunctavitus ray ?
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:41 am

Medication for Conjunctivitis will not work for a bird that has had it's eye pecked. That is not even logical. If you have a headache, you don't put Germolene on you head.

I guess that Ray's bird would have got better without the chemist.

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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:06 am

It became infected that's why we used it .it got a lot worse than yours believe me. To a point it was going in the bin ..I will try and get the name of it. It done no harm
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:14 am

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Medication for Conjunctivitis will not work for a bird that has had it's eye pecked.  That is not even logical.  If you have a headache, you don't put Germolene on you head.

I guess that Ray's bird would have got better without the chemist.

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Suggest I suspect, most are just speculation here to a degree Phil etc Smile Smile with this type of eye complaint under discussion as such. Certainly not what I would call a normal cold in the eye type issue from my end bounce bounce But then as I say Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes that is just speculation on my behave Wink Wink. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:23 am

rays correct a golden eye ointment does help cure fat eye/herpes it contains chloraphenicol but this is different

PS NOT GOOGLED

sent you a pm david
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:01 pm

Chemist will sell you golden eye drops but don't say it's for a pigeon or you won't get it.
Say its for a friend/wife/partner.
Yes it will help with fat eye also.
Failing that any eye wash will help or phils salt water. study
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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:58 pm

Well regards a peck, this was recommended for a pigeon after being attacked by a hawk... that was pecking at it's eys. The birds had its eye shut etc. BUT damage was obviously done of course.
This was the remedy

First, let The bird recover some time (15~20 min) - Obviously not now applicable.

Prepare warm water, not hot with a teaspoon of salt, or if you have saline solution, warm it under the running hot water. Flush eyes with it, wash gently and carefully. You will need some antibiotic ointment to smear on eyes/eyelids, make sure it is not irritant for eyes. Let Tweet rest and if you can, get from health shop arnica pills. Give Tweet arnica twice a day. Keep eyes clean and apply antibiotic cream daily.
It is good idea to take him to the Vet. I hope that eyes are not seriously injured.


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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:44 pm

If the eye becomes infected then you obviously have to treat the infection as I pointed out previously, but thousands of wild birds and other animals suffer numerous injuries, never seen one visit vet nor Google, and recover with little or no detrimental effects.

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PostSubject: Re: HELP URGENT !!!!!   Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:01 pm

treatment is on its way, should be here tomorrow in the post.......a big thanks to Darren for sending me some belgica product to sort it out, also thanks to him for his help/advise, also a big thank you to colin/barnie for his help and advise.

also thank you to all members who have given their opinion and advise, hopefully it will be sorted very soon cheers cheers
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