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PostSubject: ex rpra manager   Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:15 pm

saw stewart waldrop on the tv quiz tipping point yesterday he got to the final but mad a balls up of the £10,000 jackpot, he walked away with £3,000 and a holiday but of course he hardly needs one due to all the ones he had out of the rpra …. Razz another great pretender and wasted appointment at the rpra
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:06 pm

oldstrain wrote:
saw stewart waldrop on the tv quiz tipping point yesterday he got to the final but mad a balls up of the £10,000 jackpot, he walked away with £3,000 and a holiday but of course he hardly needs one due to all the ones he had out of the rpra …. Razz another great pretender and wasted appointment at the rpra
lol! lol! lol! Another xmas card etc O/S Smile Smile I suspect Wink Wink you will not be receiving next xmas as such Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:07 pm

missed it yesterday Darren, I usually watch it.........yes he`s probably had a fair few quid out of the rpra in one way or another I would think.
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:21 pm

Very funny the number of different RPRA managers we have had, with all the perks one would think they would have to prize them out of office with a sylvester and chain, why I wonder have so many resigned.

From Major Lewis ( a gentleman of the first order) until the one previous to the present one I have either met and talked to or corresponded with them all over one matter or another and found the majority gentlemen, who obviously found something ?????? in the position disagreeable.

Me thinks you are looking in the wrong place for the wrong uns.

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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:09 pm

the manager should have had the balls to sort a few at the trough but he never he bottled it so whos fault is that ...look at the fiasco with the dickin medal Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:25 pm

And it IS always the manager who replies to correspondences No No No
Half didn't know one end of a pigeon from the other...
Job for the boys.
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:54 pm

I wonder what wage the GM is on per year......?

the rpra always give the impression they have some sort of power, similar to our government.......but in actual fact they work for us, we pay their wages but they don't seem to understand that scratch scratch study
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:11 pm

A lot like the Government then... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:48 pm

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I wonder what wage the GM is on per year......?

the rpra always give the impression they have some sort of power, similar to our government.......but in actual fact they work for us, we pay their wages but they don't seem to understand that scratch scratch study

That David is simply because they don't need to.
Apathy allows that, sauced via lies and deceit of glib talkers with hidden agenda's and ways of feathering their nests.
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 pm

You do not have to know the front end or back end of a pigeon to be a good manager, you just have to know how to manage that which, in our case, is decided by others.

Nothing to do with the sport as such regarding the manager he/she does not decide the rules.

The Hall Report clearly indicates the two are separate.

There is no chance whatsoever that the manager can make any decision on his /her own regarding the running of racing and it's rules, in fact they are used as puppets, their role is to manage the running of the offices and commercial or any other activities involved, nothing to do with racing.

I do not doubt for one minute that frustration and the conduct of those on the Council has contributed to some very good managers being disillusioned and resigned.


We had five genuine fanciers elected to serve on the Council, they were intent on looking into many aspects of the sport they thought wanting, the other members removed them on a vote of no confidence, the only ones who could legally do so were the ones who voted them onto the council, and not council members who had been voted on, on the same basis.


But as with numerous other completely ignorance and disrespect for the rules they were allowed to go on their merry way.


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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:06 pm

having read your post misty, one question springs to mind............

why do we even need a general manager ?
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:06 am

I think, David, that you need someone at hand to take care of the basic day to day tasks necessary to conduct the affairs of the sport.

Cannot think of a better title than Manager.

The NHS is run by Managers who some possibly do not now the difference between a brain and a pain, but they are essential in order to let the doctors etc; get on with the real health care.



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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:17 am

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I think, David, that you need someone at hand to take care of the basic  day to day tasks necessary to conduct the affairs of the sport.

Cannot think of a better title than Manager.

The NHS is run by Managers who some possibly do not now the difference between a brain and a pain, but they are essential in order to let the doctors etc; get on with the real health care.



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All comes down to the pecking order thing I suspect Misty Wink Wink everyone requires some else these days Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes for when things go belly up type of thing I suggest  Wink  Wink. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:28 am

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You do not have to know the  front end or back end of a pigeon to be a good manager, you just have to know how to manage that which, in our case, is decided by others.

Nothing to do with the sport as such regarding the manager he/she does not decide the rules.

The Hall Report clearly indicates the two are separate.

There is no chance whatsoever that the manager can make any decision on his /her own regarding the running of racing and it's rules, in fact they are used as puppets, their role is to manage the running of the offices and commercial or any other activities involved, nothing to do with racing.

I  do not doubt  for one minute that frustration and the conduct of those on the Council has contributed to some very good managers being disillusioned and resigned.


We had five genuine fanciers elected to serve on the Council, they were intent on looking into many aspects of the sport they thought wanting, the other members removed  them on a vote of no confidence, the only ones who could legally do so were the ones who voted them onto the council, and not council members who had been voted on, on the same basis.


But as with numerous other completely ignorance and disrespect for the rules they were allowed to go on their merry way.


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to be fair I think that's a good summary but you need someone with some backbone mr waldrop just did not come across as someone with authority I spoke several times on the phone but he never came across as enthusiastic more like everything was an effort ... you need someone who really cares about pigeon racing not someone who is happy to tick down the clock and let things pass him by
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:46 pm

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I think, David, that you need someone at hand to take care of the basic  day to day tasks necessary to conduct the affairs of the sport.

Cannot think of a better title than Manager.

The NHS is run by Managers who some possibly do not now the difference between a brain and a pain, but they are essential in order to let the doctors etc; get on with the real health care.



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yes misty, good comparison.........the rpra manager, as with the nhs managers are on a very good wage (I know the nhs ones are), but yet the men on the ground keeping the whole thing running and doing the shi**y end of the work are on basic wages.

I always find it wrong that some man in a suit is raking in big wages for doing very little, while the lower down workers are the ones who are struggling with working hours and wages.......but then again theres always been this sort of madness within management, when I worked for leeds city council many years ago it was always the crap bricklayers who were made foreman or went into the offices and told others how to do the job, when in fact they were useless at the job them selves and didn't have a clue.......hence a cushy office job or foremans job.
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:56 pm

Nothing is fair, David, at first sight, but you have one manager, many slaves, you can afford one manager on high wages but not all the slaves.

Agree about the building industry and those in the office etc; when working for Wimpy there were many in positions some in charge of brickies that did not know an engineering brick from a common one.

In all aspects of life too much emphasis is placed on paper qualifications and less on the practical abilities, like, the blind leading the sighted.

Will never change, David, too many wrong uns in the wrong places.

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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:11 pm

Just about the Tipping Point, if that is random I am King Herod's grandad.


Take the other such GAME, The Chase, he reads the contestants questions a second or two slower than the Chasers, and also hesitates when asking the contestants questions, yet the contestants have often lost by a couple of seconds.

Funny old world.


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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:26 pm

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Just about the Tipping Point, if that is random I am King Herod's grandad.


Take the other such GAME, The Chase, he reads the contestants  questions a second or two slower than the Chasers, and also hesitates when asking the contestants questions, yet the contestants have often lost by a couple of seconds.

Funny old world.


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lol! lol! lol! yes I did notice that myself pirat pirat
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:33 pm

spot on with both of your posts misty........ cheers cheers study
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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:40 pm

Blame the manager Rolling Eyes Embarassed
Just a puppy to have face and do as he is told.

Was a time when the RPRA was seriously thinking of employing a 'P.R. Firm' as A. a think tank and mouth piece.
Feelers went out to many 'Fanciers' who turned it down out of hand. Then the Fanciers said that with all the rich people - didn't taking money - that surely one could have a secretary or two to do the work for them. I kid you not. As if a wealthy biasness needing to make money for A. profit, B. when gave some employment to pay the mortgage and feed the kids etc. Could and should take on board these thankless tasks for the lazy, silent and undeserving fanciers!  Fancier that moan, but spout nowt of realism. Glad I'm not relying on selling Mirrors for a living.


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PostSubject: Re: ex rpra manager   Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:39 pm

The RPRA have had an in doors Think Tank for several years, think they have never had a reasonable thought between them.

But hey the Raptor Alliance, raptor problem solved ???????.

Told the General Manager at the time it would be a complete waste of time and money, BHW,


But they will have had some nice get togethers and spent a considerable amount of money.


Afraid they have no appreciation of reality, a necessity sadly lacking in the sport.


Lets just see how things go at the AGM.


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