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Subject: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:58 am
video showing three illegals coming into the uk, they are caught by a few citizens who are monitoring dover daily.
the police arrive and let the illegals walk off, into the uk.
our governments are traitors , and need to be removed.....
MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 88 Location : SCARBOROUGH
Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:41 am
Do not run our great police force down, how can they deal with all the nasty motorists doing a couple of miles an hour over the speed limit, or a pc idiot complaining about tea not being provided at a Tea Dance, or Christian wearing a cross etc;??????.
You have to get your priorities right.
Regards.
Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:43 am
To make the wealthy richer eh! Dave. Tax free exploitation. Colossal monies unaccounted for.
David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:51 am
the british people seem to think all this immigration is because we are in the EU, that's partly true....... its our government who are allowing it and encouraging it, its them that are the main reason for all this immigration.
if / when we leave the EU, immigration will still be the same, it will not subside.
Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:06 pm
Yes and the Vans will be picking them up be picking them up between 3 and 6 in the morning and pay them peanuts. On the farm lands they live up to 13 in a shack. Charged rent and food, £13 a day... they manage after wards to save £15 - £20 and send a few quiddies home every week. others get hands out and exploit the system big time. rob, cheat etc. Some enforce slavery and prostitution …
Fruit picking is very cheap... quite rightly the locals shouldn't even consider the slave labour prices of hourly rates... Who makes their' money! Not the ones paying their taxes that's for sure.
any way it is what makes us strong and wealthy as it has always. we raped and pillaged big time.
In the Mid 50's a decorum of the 22 club put three names up to bring in the 'Cheap labour we needed. Hospitals, trains, furnishes and much more that 'WE' didn't and want to do. So MacMillion, McCloud and YES ENOCH POWELL set about bringing them in... for cheap labour and profits for the rich and wealthy concerns ... It was till Enoch lost his cabinet and constituency that he was given Wolverhampton that he spouted 8 years after, the famous 'Rivers of Blood' speech … Yes it got him elected.
David Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:41 pm
that's the way it has always been daz, the rich exploiting a group of people for cheap labour, the minimum wage means nothing, as these immigrants will work for peanuts, live like animals, and send what money they do save back home........slavery was the same, all the wealthy had them, not the ordinary man on the street, the working class have always been treated like slaves them selves.
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:51 pm
You know Dave we agree on a lot. Our views and thoughts. O.K. I no longer participate in politics as one must realise. I am voting for another government, not of making by us. My Brother and Brother in - law are big in it. One a chairman of the Dorset Tory Party. My brother well in and two former Great uncles in the cabinets. one Tory the other Labour. But as I have, and never have had, any thing to 'Conserve' I don't have much in common there.
Yes I was a Trade unionist, and very good one at that if I do say so my self.
Some say to me now - Like I use to say lol - 'If you don't vote you have no right to say' That of course is rubbish. I paid my taxes. I buy food at exorbitant prices, get ripped of at the petrol pumps, Pay my council taxes and what not, so that gives me the right to whinge lol.
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David Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:37 pm
I read something the other day daz, the government were preparing to give Nissan 18 million to keep production in the uk, but they let our own car industry (british Leyland, Austin, morris etc) collapse............
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:57 pm
Very true. they gave … gosh name went DeLeon, or such, £Millions to cry bankrupt and through a mass onto the dole heap while bask away in a life of Luxury.
Tony Benn brought in a law that said in simple terms 'If a company puts money into better wages, working conditions, more employment' and much more then that would go as tax, and tax free etc. But it had to be invested in this country!
As soon as the Tories got in, they review it,and squashed the last bit so that the wealthy, rich could invest it abroad Tax free... which meant a costing of jobs and what not in this country. like wise in coal and steel etc. abroad. It followed that Thatcher's friends could then invest in Coal, steel, etc. etc abroad tax free to the 140.000 miners, 000's plus steel world etc. went on the dole. Lost houses and decent - if poor - cost of a living.
fieldwalker Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:17 pm
David wrote:
I read something the other day daz, the government were preparing to give Nissan 18 million to keep production in the uk, but they let our own car industry (british Leyland, Austin, morris etc) collapse............
Nissan going nowhere building more factories on green belt for them and their subs... resisting the temptation to turn the air many shades of #%×@ing blue
MISTY Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:38 pm
If the immigrants that do the fruit picking etc; were not content to do so they would go back from whence they came.
The farmers etc; can only pay wages that enable them to make a profit, and farming is hard work.
Put up the wages up goes the price of the product.
One of the problems is the idle who would rather sit at home and have everything provided, if they were made to work and have their income made up to their benefit entitlement there may be some improvement. .
The vast majority of the menial jobs are done by immigrants, the government are well aware of and cannot see where the replacements could come from.
Not only immigrants are being taken for a ride but some of our own are being taken for a ride by immigrants.
We can all moan but who has a solution?????.
Regards.
It is not as simple as one
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:28 pm
So buy a little acre of land. Call it British! Exploitation of work force and putting money into foreign countries so the Rich can make more. We have to realise that if we pay dirt wages abroad it is far more than the normal for them … True. 12 - 13 year old doing 12 to 16 hour days etc. Conscience clear then.
Farmers grow and plough in when shoots come through and get paid fully for crop, tax free, two or three times. Sale some then … the rest sold on road side tax free. Thatcher brought that in AFTER saying 'If you can't make it pay! Find a job / employment that does! Other twit said 'Get on your bike and find work! After desecrating the employment. she gave silos full of food, milk, cheeses etc. away to Russia! After trying to ban the athletes to refuse to go to Russia as a protest. Then paid farmers to cut the hedges, or paid them to let them grow for the 'Habitat's. Dig
Then farmers get paid for cutting hedges, or get paid to let the grow. Paid to dig ditches... or paid to let the fill up etc. etc. . We destroy two thirds of food grown etc. world wide to KEEP THE PRICES UP!
Control the oil and you control the nations … control the food and you control the masses! Life is cheap. Have no value. It is to be exploited by many for profit.
To preserve anything you must put a value on it! Life is cheap.
Likewise animals- our pigeons, Kangaroo's etc. To preserve anything you must put a value on it! If no value, then they become classed as of no worth. No importance... Verman, a waste.
David Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:36 pm
the vast majority of immigrants can only do menial jobs......they wash cars or serve in some filthy, dirty fast food shop. most immigrants do not do manual work, taxi driving, or serving in a shop is about as physical as it gets, low IQ and low work ethic.........propaganda by the media tells us the English people are lazy, this is lies, to excuse them for importing foreigners for cheap labour.
our communities are destroyed by our governments and councils, they do not want the indigenous people having any strength, or any organised meeting places such as public houses, this is why they are all being shut down......the government are terrified of people saying enough is enough, and getting their heads together and standing up to these tyrants.
indigenous people are being discriminated against in all walks of life, jobs, housing, benefits etc.........but who stands up for them, no one......if they do they are labelled racist .
MISTY Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:38 pm
Must agree, David, about the general public being gagged under the new Pc and "Snowflake" brigade.
Think it is a ploy encouraged by the government to detract from the fact they are attempting to make our country a dictatorship.
The little man to have no say in anything, just do what you are told etc;
Our MPs are a bunch of misfits and un naturals of every description, the odd normal is an outsider,
The writing was on the wall when the odd balls infiltrated government and started the present path to anything goes.
The only way back would be a revolution, or, Roll On.
Regards.
David Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:44 pm
spot on in what you say misty, this hasn't just come about over night either.....its been going on for many years gradually, going un noticed by joe public until now, the government and councils are blatant with it because they have manipulated things to such an extent, that the people dare not say anything for fear of reprisals .
oldstrain Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:18 pm
what a joke this country has become ...crooked government rotten to the core
Knackered Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:09 pm
oldstrain wrote:
what a joke this country has become ...crooked government rotten to the core
All will be well maybe after Brexit etc O/S . Big stink going on down here over the illegal boat brigade & what we should do with them etc. 50,000 odd come in through the back door as such by boat. Strange thing is thou we have had over 150,000 odd come in by plane & not a word said about attempting to stop them doing it by my government or the opposition as such.
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:45 am
David said quote' … the vast majority of immigrants can only do menial jobs...… they wash cars or serve in some filthy, dirty fast food shop. most immigrants do not do manual work, taxi driving, or serving in a shop is about as physical as it gets, low IQ and low work ethic......…' Sorry David, I can't go along with that. I believe that - though some truth there, very little though in real terms. Our hospitals, for instance, would close down, along with many other concerns.
When Thatcher tried to disband the N.H.S. and the Dentists in as much with drawing the means to teach others saying 'Dentist should teach THEIR chosen ones. Thousands of us had to travel 40 to even over a 100 miles. A 'Sharp practices' sprung up where they only extracted for £75 per tooth! Those of us - not realising - if you didn't use a dentist in six months you were struck off their books. Thatcher state words to the effect They didn't have them on the middle ages and got along ...' It caused a riot in her cabinet, and along with trying to destroy the N.H.S. it cost her, her premiership! One of the few things Blair did any good. He trained overseas dentist etc. We needed them big time!I haven't seen a British dentist in 20 years nigh. - Sorry some immigrants now having British citizenship.
Like I haven't a consultant, etc. Indeed only one in 20 years at the hospital! And much more cases. Solictors galore from overseas. these are educated in their home land
propaganda by the media tells us the English people are lazy, this is lies, to excuse them for importing foreigners for cheap labour'.
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:58 am
If I see a so called immigrants working, paying their' taxes. Supporting us in some way. Making a living for their families AND Paying they dues, I 'Personally' have no problem with that. Indeed I raise my hat as I would any U.K. citizen. Now IF I was one of those unfortunate foreigner we were bombing for own ends. Seeing family sons and daughters murder for trumped up wars, I would - Like any of you would if able - move. Come on now WOULDN'T you. A friend, sadly he and wife have passed away. Took their son and escape a part of Russia. Walked through the Ukraine and more in starving conditions in the ice and snow. They made it here.
Have a Chinese friend - was married to my wife's ex husband. He has passed on. When she took the exam to become a U.K. Citizen I tell you true, and I like history etc. etc. I would have had no idea on 70% of the questions. She squatted day and night, and passed. Had to do it herself of course. No one could stand in for her etc. She passed. Has reared her son to pass for Durham University. She works all hours 6 days or more a week. Never refuses overtime.
Now of course, like some of our own scum buckets others do work the system. Lazy and not worth what they loose sitting on the toilet. But if it wasn't for them, we would - as Thatcher said Have not a pension. The £40 billion (THEN) THEY put into the coffers pay that! … till now. Soon it will be a forgone memory as THE PENSION is being done away with soon!.
MISTY Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:48 pm
No doubt, Daz, some immigrants put others of our own to shame.
Know a few who have worked in the kitchen at our bowling club who have studied to pass the test you mentioned and I do not think I could pass it without a little help.
It is not these type that are a worry but those who work on the farms but those who want to take advantage of our welfare system and at the same time indulge in every illegal activity.
Regards.
oldstrain Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:51 pm
here here misty you cant pluck the best of them as a general example no doubt some have good intentions atb
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:29 pm
True Misty. Of course they come in a mixed bag.
In the new system it will be as it should be. Not a worker! Neither let them eat!
It is like doctors appointments. We- here - have to wait an appalling 2 -5 weeks for an appointment... even after coming out from seeing the doctor who says 'Make a follow up appointment'. So in principal one could say 'Any missed appointments will be charged say £25! this government has tried to use it as an excuse for charging for appointments anyway. The part of those not able to afford etc. 'Not' going to the docs then when needs to is their stumbling block.
So now they are deliberating regards proof of age.... but that won't cover genuine family's struggling to live! Yes many whom work hard - even both parents - are in debt big time.
Last figures show that 74% have a debt outside of their Mortgage …. nigh 50% big time.
So yes that adds fire to why allow overseas enter and use an already over worked, under funded N.H.S. THE right to come and enjoy what we paid for whilst them haven't paid a jot. Not a single penny. Americans find it cheaper to come here than have a child back home. the great U.S.A where over 56% are suffering from malnutrition!
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David Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:37 pm
I am not racist in any way, and I do have very good friends of many years who are not English....(note I said English and not british), but the thing that gets me is the amount of worthless people flooding into the uk, whos main objective is to claim benefits, like it or not this is the truth.
these people are economic migrants on the scrounge, not immigrants coming here for the good of the country, they are coming here for a better life for them selves, a very large percentage of them are a sap on the country, and contribute nothing of value.
we should adopt the policy Australia had, allowing certain people in such as doctors, professional people who would benefit the country, why do we need the scum of the world swarming in to take what they can for free ? whilst discriminating against our own citizens ?
MISTY Oldbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:06 pm
The answer, David, is apathy, no one worries about anything until it directly affects their little world, can remember years ago reading about the Gay mafia worming their way into Parliament and what the possible consequences would be, no one took notice.
Even now MPs are passing legislation without the public being aware of what the consequences will be, they sneak things in through the back door, as it were.
The only way is to get rid of the whole lot, all the MPs who have defied the wishes of the majority should not be eligible for re election, on grounds of treason.
The public should demand more independent MPs not associated with Unions or Big Businesses whose only intent is to make the country fair and capable of dealing with the advantage takers.
Regards.
Daz Youngbird
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Subject: Re: Police Allowing Illegas into UK Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:11 pm
A lot of truth and understanding from where you come from David. I think when the Aussies threatened to blow their' boats out of the water and never let them in I stood up and said 'Well Done'. As for scroungers etc. David, that's very true.
It is like when traffic cameras spouted up all over the place. 'It's to save lives' Rubbish, it was just another way of making money'! one can't argue that even if just one life is saved ...' But when the Chameleon wanted to keep all the money, Told the police and councils that they would have to fork out for the costs... they were all bar 7 in England turned off.
Now the policy is for most councils just to turn them on here and there. Drivers get complacent and speed up … I know one council that makes … wel thousands upon 000's by doing this. They blame the drivers saying that they should know better. Yet are allured into falsehoods and trapped can't be morally right!