corn prices!!!!

never used it david what is it and how muchis it for how much

im not sure but its very small seeds and its golden/brown colour i think its pinhead oats or something like that ian, i did get told but have forgot....it was about 6 pound a bag !!!

david used to feed pinhead oat meal with canary seed and depuritive mixed up with fine oil dont do it anymore as its too expensive now

did it do them any good tho ian...is it a conditioning mix ? did you see any difference or did they race any different ?

yes david condition was fantastic very silky to handle but didnt really race any better

When using pin head know that some fanciers when having young birds in the nest will sock the pin head in cod liver oil and place this in the nest box in a seperate container for them to eat from

read about a fancier giving the ybs a cod liver oil capsule one a day for a week after weaning, any idea why he did this ?

manyn different methods david but generally whats good for us is good for them ,if you done everything people say you wouldnt have enough hours in the day or enough money to do it

Spot on Ian with your comments its all about keeping the costs down and what is good for use has got to be good for the pigeons also


The best vitamins for the young birds is powdered milk the type you give a new born baby??

never heard of that one don, but then again its full of everything a baby needs i suppose so i cant see it doing any harm to pigeons......as you say, its full of vitamins, calcium etc.

Same as giving the pigeons yougust and natural yogust

Natural yogout is good for keeping the cocci count down?

With the milk powder they dampen the corn and put the powder straight on the corn

oh right, i was thinking in the water... yes on the corn would be good, maybe could use lemon juice or garlic juice to dampen with ??? we have put powdered brewers yeast on in the past which i thought was ok.....?

yes that will be O.K

have you thought about putting honey in the water also??

i bought some honeygar from holland and barret health shop which is honey and cider vinegar mixed.......now and again i put 5ml per litre into the water.

You use it, it will do the birds good old and young

yes david i use it every tuesday

Ian is it honey or cider vinegar or both together???

i have the honeygar which is both mixed, would it be any different used seperatly ?

David try and see if it does not harm the birds, to be honest i can not see it giving the pigeons a problem but that is my opinion

same here david cant see it being a problem

when fanciers use ciderr vinegar what is it for ? what does it do ?

Once a week, 1 to 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar to a gallon water for good gut PH at a level that bacteria, such as Salmonella and E Coli don't like, and most likely will not thrive in the crop. I recommend the organic ACV from the health food store as it has the "mother" in it. You can also give the birds probiotics at this time, as the ACV favors good bacteria over bad bacteria. ACV provides a favorable environment for the good gut bacteria to repopulate.

INTERNAL BENEFITS:

* Rich in enzymes & potassium
* Support a healthy immune system
* Helps control weight
* Promotes digestion & ph Balance
* Helps soothe dry throats
* Helps remove body sludge toxins

external benifits

* Helps maintain healthy skin
* Helps promote youthful, healthy bodies
* Soothes irritated skin
* Relieves muscle pain from exercise

hope this can shed a bit light on the subject