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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 11:54 am

FRIDAY
July 26th, 2019
Good Evening

Went to the 30 mile mark today , they did not clear the lib point the best and broke into about 3 batches with around 100 making hard work of it again.

Will look at training Sunday just depends on the weather and racing.

I hope to get another three plus at 30 miles and a 40 plus miles toss in before the first race so they will have to tow the line..

Will update tomorrow evening Jeremy..
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Good Evening

Will see how the weather is tomorrow regarding training , the birds went out this morning for a few hours and they seem happy in themselves.

Will update tomorrow evening.

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 11:55 am

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Good Evening

We got a trainer in today would of gone further but the weather deteriorated the further i travelled up..

Will be training again tomorrow as the weather looks good..

From position 742 today they won’t train tomorrow , they have been put in a section and will be released out tomorrow after the main batches are back.

Will update tomorrow evening.

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Good Evening

Birds cleared excellent today and most made good time into a light head wind.

Tomorrow the weather is forecast is set to be poor so were see how Wednesday looks and when the weather is right the next trainer will be hopefully from 40 miles.

Will update tomorrow evening.

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 12:12 pm

whens the first hotspot date ...we still got 2 in, seems things have levelled out a bit regards training maybe due to health issues improving/being sorted
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 1:37 pm

Doing well so far, fingers crossed.

So many possibilities good and bad, no doubt luck plays major roll but the pigeons must be capable in the first place.

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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 4:01 pm

If the pigeons have been suffering any illnesses then I feel it should be made known to the members, what they are and how dealt with and the results.


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they had a 40 mile toss today ,first hotspot is on Monday 70 mile
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they had a 40 mile toss today ,first hotspot is on Monday 70 mile


great news, didnt realise it was so close to the first one, i hope they show it live .......
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Something to look forward to, fingers crossed.


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still got 2 in it ...1 seems to be coming quite well the other not so
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Done well to still have two in, irrespective of any result.

Feel a bit uncomfortable with the likely hood that they will be the only ones racing and with the raptor problems.


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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyThu Aug 01, 2019 9:32 pm

they race north same as us ...yes they get plenty attention we had 2 awful yb races so far and where the lofts are situated out in the sticks would be spar/goshawk heaven so it does not bode well ...theirs talk of the fancy banding together to buy eagle owls as pets to breed from,lets just hope their young don't escape into the wild that would be the only predator to the peregrine falcon:bounce:
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still got 2 in it ...1 seems to be coming quite well the other not so

might all change one the racing starts eh, looking forward to monday ....... cheers

just realised, daughters birthday monday, i wondered why i was skint ........ Suspect Suspect scratch scratch scratch
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just realised, daughters birthday monday, i wondered why i was skint  ........ Suspect Suspect scratch scratch scratch [/quote]
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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyFri Aug 02, 2019 11:05 am

Just had a look at the RSPB finances etc;.

At first sight thought 90% of income going to further the best interests of ALL our bird population was reasonable, then I realised it was after expenses, the latter not divulged.

However, they do not take equal regard for all our bird population and favour birds of prey beyond reasonable acceptance.


They are trying to say the Eagle Owl is an intruder and not a native species but under the same terms nearly ever species is not native.


Time a real in depth investigation into the workings of the RSPB was undertaken by a completely independent body.


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PostSubject: Re: 2019 RPRA One Loft Update.   2019 RPRA One Loft Update. - Page 9 EmptyFri Aug 02, 2019 1:27 pm

Misty, the Eagle Owl is classed by DAFRA as a native bird. Also ANY bird that has been bred here, rung etc. is classed as a Native.

Mind it never stops the RSPB from illegally culling any Eagle Owl. Nor splashing lies galore in the media regards the Eagle Owl.
that they will take babies from Prams. Or dogs off the street, on a leash or not.
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Just looked up the list of protected birds Daz, all the raptors are on but not the Eagle Owl.


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Article in the paper Daz, seagull picks up and carries away a pet dog, reward for return of same.

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well our two came today in the 40 mile toss ,last toss before 1st hotspot on Monday weather permitting
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Just looked up the list of protected birds Daz, all the raptors are on but not the Eagle Owl.


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Yes Jimmy White wrote to them … gave me a copy of their reply, but can't find it.

Eagle Owl is / was on it. They also wrote regarding their' the understand of the eagle Owl.

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https://www.conservationjobs.co.uk/articles/eagle-owls-in-the-uk-native-or-not/

This giant owl divides opinion among conservationists. Some think it should be a native bird and the population is from migratory birds from Europe, but others say it’s an unwelcome escapee from captivity. However, it has successfully bred in the UK – most recently in North Yorkshire – since 1996.
Resembling an overgrown long-eared owl, it can take prey up to the size of a deer fawn and, as a top predator, will not tolerate other raptors in its territory. Estimates of breeding-pair numbers differ widely from as few as 12 to as many as 40.

Read more at https://www.countrylife.co.uk/nature/six-types-owl-youll-find-britain-166296#HVC26Zd5RCgst1tE.99

This alone means that D.A.F.R.A. does, and will accept that the Eagle Owl is classed as a native.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Dafra%20Eagle%20owl%20a%20native%20bird%20of%20the%20U.K.&pc=cosp&ptag=G6C999N1234D010114A98C4AF66BD&form=CONBDF&conlogo=CT3210127
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A good, and long read granted. https://www.owls.org/images/easyblog_articles/14/Eagle_Owls_In_Britain_Dossier_Revised.pdf

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We can find no evidence that Eagle Owls breeding in the UK either in the past or in the present have caused any environmental problems or seriously affected the numbers of other species sharing their environment. Nor have we found records of any of the ‘species of conservation concern’ listed in the DEFRA Risk Assessment, being taken as prey in Britain.
We have found no evidence of attacks on farm livestock, and believe that apart from one or two attacks on dogs taken too near to active nests, allegations that they are a threat to domestic pets are largely based on ‘sensationalist’ media hype.
Like many other organizations and individuals, the World Owl Trust has submitted its response to the Risk Assessment’s conclusions, outlining in brief why we oppose its findings and contend that most of the answers given by CABI are either conjecture or represent data taken from European and Fennoscandia studies that are not relevant to Eagle Owls breeding in Britain. This response can be seen on our website www.owls.org
We believe that in this report we have given sufficient evidence to suggest that the European Eagle Owl Bubo bubo bubo is a legitimate candidate for listing as a native British species. The BOU’s arbitrary interpretation of what does or does not constitute a native species, is at odds with archaeologists, palaeontologists and mammal scientists’ interpretations (see Stewart 2007 and Yalden 2003), and also that published by DEFRA. Furthermore, their claim that the European Eagle Owl is an invasive alien originating solely from escapes or deliberate releases is unsubstantiated. We therefore now call on DEFRA, FERA, the RSPB, BTO and Natural England to scrap the Risk Assessment document and it’s conclusions until first-hand accurate data is collected from pairs nesting or present in Britain.
We also call on the British Ornithologist’s Union to remove the Eurasian Eagle Owl from Category E* of the British List and place this species in Category A unless they can validate their claim that all Eagle Owls currently in Britain originate from captive stock.
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It was classed as a U.K. native bird until 1992. - 1996
https://www.britishbirds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Eagle-Owl-in-Britain.pdf
then for years the RSPB tried to state differently.
However DAFRA have since admitted it is classed as a native bird.
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Agree with all you state Daz, but it is not on the present protected list, read almost all including Botham's remarks on the subject, the RSPB will do anything to protect their intention to have a raptor in every ones back garden, and they are well on their way.

The country is almost in the hands of criminals but you can have the police chasing suspects with regard to upsetting raptors.


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