London Bridge Tragedy !!!.

My thoughts here go out etc to all those effected with what has just happened sadly there. Just hope thou those that chose to release the perpetrator on the general public as such, Ring those close to the ones here killed & maimed & explain why they did such a thing with his past record, after only 5 years .

Should have been bullet to the head first time around then this wouldn't have happened knackered. It's terrible, no one ever seems to be accountable for these mistakes in the mad judiciary system we have. Far too lenient, not just with terrorism but crime in general.

watched a couple of videos of this, and to me theres something not quite right about it ..............and a few things which ive spotted that dont ring true .

but then again, we have the police and news media involved, what do we expect ........

send the daleks in I say

The problem of crime in many aspects will never be solved until the punishment meets the crime.

Too many little old ladies and self interested parties have been listened to and the thought of punishment gone out the window and replaced by the attempt to reform.

Our prisons are like first class hotels, the warders dare not say anything to the prisoners or they will be charged themselves Etc;

Recent case when released from prison the man immediately committed another crime to get back in.

Make prison any cushier and we will all want to be in.


Bring back slopping out and mail bags etc; soon stop the rot for most crimes and the real thugs could be kept like the animals they are.


Regards.

how can anyone be surprised this is happening, our government is warmongering and meddling in other countries, and importing people from those countries here to the uk........these people will automatically be hostile to the uk, and are totally alien to our culture, why be surprised when this happens ............???

now we will get all the middle class do gooders holding hands, lighting candles and singing songs, and saying multi culturism is good for the country .......and we welcome immigrants .

Nut megs everywere. Ice on the roads is called 'black ice' because it is dangerous and hard to see. Now the word 'black ice' is getting challenged!
Aussi land. All the bush fires. One young fellow just charged with setting some. Volunteer fire fighter yet!

Another aspect that is blood curdling is that hundreds of working families do not earn enough to afford the life style of those in prison.

The law should say and be, YOU GET PUNISHED for a crime not mollycoddled and given the chance to be radicalised and taught how not to get caught next time.


Regards.

barnie wrote:

Should have been bullet to the head first time around then this wouldn't have happened knackered. It's terrible, no one ever seems to be accountable for these mistakes in the mad judiciary system we have. Far too lenient, not just with terrorism but crime in general.

For me etc Barnie watching it unfold on TV down here, I actually thought it was an episode out of Yanky land as such sadly. When watching the police there pull one of the public of the man & then shoot the perpetrator dead as such, just did not fit well with me I'm . That innocent till proving guilty scenario playing out for me here & by doing what they did there, they just made him a martyr to his believer types I suggest. End of the day a tragic event, sadly & what makes it worse is you have 60/70 of the same types given early release in your back yard with your system there & I just asked myself how could such a system meant to look after the general public on average, be so stupid to allow such a thing to happen unfortunately. But then, I sadly thought of your Brexit fiasco in play as I speak here & it all then become clear to me, why it is so as such.
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halcanada wrote:

Nut megs everywere. Ice on the roads is called 'black ice' because  it is dangerous and hard to see. Now the word 'black ice' is getting challenged!
Aussi land. All the bush fires. One young fellow just charged with setting some. Volunteer fire fighter yet!

Is there ever etc Hal Nutmeg types are running rampant across the world for what I see Face book/twitter & their world now is a large oyster to them I suggest, with some/many of there crackpot ideas & beliefs as such.

Knackered wrote:

barnie wrote:

Should have been bullet to the head first time around then this wouldn't have happened knackered. It's terrible, no one ever seems to be accountable for these mistakes in the mad judiciary system we have. Far too lenient, not just with terrorism but crime in general.

For me etc Barnie watching it unfold on TV down here, I actually thought it was an episode out of Yanky land as such sadly. When watching the police there pull one of the public of the man & then shoot the perpetrator dead as such, just did not fit well with me I'm . That innocent till proving guilty scenario playing out for me here & by doing what they did there, they just made him a martyr to his believer types I suggest. End of the day a tragic event, sadly & what makes it worse is you have 60/70 of the same types given early release in your back yard with your system there & I just asked myself how could such a system meant to look after the general public on average, be so stupid to allow such a thing to happen unfortunately. But then, I sadly thought of your Brexit fiasco in play as I speak here & it all then become clear to me, why it is so as such.
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very good post knackered, i agree with everything you said .............i said a couple of days ago something wasnt right about this whole scenario . I had a video on my phone from the internet shortly after it happened, it has a couple of things in it which made me very suspicious of the whole thing, it has probably been removed now, but if i can upload it onto the forum im sure it will set alarm bells ringing for others too.


same with the grenfell towers fire, early interviews from neighbours told a different story to that we were told, but those interviews were never seen again, and i have been unable to find them on the internet .

I saw those early interviews on Grenfell one said they were woken by a neighbour saying his kitchen appliance had caught fire and were told to get out asap on looking in the corridor the guys bags were packed and ready to go never heard or saw that interview again there was another similar interview but not seen either since

We can argue and have different views regarding terrorism and ideology etc; but the fact is there is no overall answer, it would take everyone being of the same faith and opinion on everything to have an ideal civilisation.

So we have to have Laws to prevent things going to the dogs.

In most cases they work and are a deterrent to bad behaviour.

However, you cannot control the minds or actions of fanatics.


No Government can legislate to either prevent or control the likes of the idiot shot dead.

Unless they are under close supervision at all times (and unfortunately the only way is to confine them permanently) there is NO WAY YOU CAN PREVENT THE SAME HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

The Law must be changed to do so.


Regards.

something wrong with a system that finds a man guilty of terror offences, and gives him 16 years in prison, but lets him out after 6 years .........

David wrote:

something wrong with a system that finds a man guilty of terror offences, and gives him 16 years in prison, but lets him out after 6 years .........

All, comes about unfortunately David from my perspective down here because of the do-gooder brigade etc running rampant at the highest level when such a thing is allowed to happen. Spin the bottle any which way with them & they will come up with some flaky/fairy & ridiculous conclusion for these terrorist types I suggest. Truth be told, when they are prepared at times to put bomb vests on small children for their idiot cause they deserve no mercy  from the general public or pity I feel & should just rot in jail till eternity like Robert Stroud maybe, the birdman of Alcatraz. Final word here     & me being me     to pass the time while there     I would give our Christian bible to them, as the only reading matter & no TV also type of thing, Tripe as the main meal every day & if they wish for an extra treat     bread & dripping be their only choice as such &       to conclude the monthly regime, A total hose down     in place of a monthly shower with a large fire hose etc to just maybe help keep their idiot spirit/faith up & alive    .