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David Oldbird
Posts : 43283 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:52 am | |
| Have to say all credit to Tyson. Been a lot better since his return I feel. Done him the world of good, I believe. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43283 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:58 am | |
| yes i agree daz, first fight with wider fury was overweight still , i think he said he lost around 8 stone after ballooning up due to mental health issues etc, plus he had been out of the ring for 2 - 3 years ...........so with a few fights and getting into better condition it made sense he would perform better . |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:18 pm | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:19 pm | |
| Just watched video of fight , Tyson won every round and never looked in any danger.
There is no wonder some of these boxers have mental problems.
Regards. |
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:10 pm | |
| [quote="MISTY"]Just watched video of fight , Tyson won every round and never looked in any danger. There is no wonder some of these boxers have mental problems. What do you Reckon Don … Hope Misty isn't referring to you and me lol. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:37 pm | |
| Now would I say anything detrimental about two gentlemen of the sport?.
But being bashed in the manner of the said fight cannot do either any good.
Doing it for fun and a sport is not the same as the pressure the pros go through,
Not only in the ring but all the other pressures they have to bare.
Regards. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:57 pm | |
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:08 am | |
| You know, I have watched this fight again - 2-3 times. Where was Wilder! Lethargic and slow... only threw the odd hard right hander TOO miss. Left too stomach Lifted his legs forward as he jumped back and down. Sorry lads I smell a rat. Reminds me of when two journey men - Both lost far more fights than won, give a stirring blood and thunder fight, both going the distance … as Crowd pleasers and get great 'Nobbins' thrown into the ring... rematch clamoured for.
Already a rematch is being talked up up for Wilder and Tyson! Excuse being made and will more will abound no doubt!
Yes 'Money talks', and where there's money there are crooks and shady deals etc.
I'd wager at least one more match - Wilder will win! Yep Tyson to walk into a silly right hand that should never, have landed! etc,
One win each and a draw! Then maybe a 'Swan Song' for great money! But I think with £50 million pay off each next time they can both retire with great records and so-called honour.
Sorry folks. A sham and a farce. Back to the 40's & 50's.
Ok, many on here will disagree. Indeed many will want to disagree. Be that as it may, time will tale.
If one remembers, me saying after the Klitso fight I didn't believe it. said it was a money deal and fraud. Yes that I couldn't see Tyson going through with a return, which I thought was on the cards - it being a fix. I was right regard no return. Now I say there is going to be a return. THE simple fact is/being that there are any well known 'Names' to draw a crowd. Tyson's last fights were a hard sale to say the least. Like wise Wilder and Joshua. they will have to do the rounds... and receive colossal earning against each other. Who can blame There simply isn't name worth mentioning, It is the fact. Days are gone of good and genuine fighters. They can earn a lot of bread in sports without injury! |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:42 pm | |
| Do not know Daz if it was a fix but would certainly not say the loser would have relished his head being knocked about as such, would have been a far easier way of losing, and going the distance.
Think Tyson would be disappointed if he thought his efforts were thought to not be sincere.
Regards.
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:32 am | |
| Well Misty, with another £31 Million in the bank, doubt he would be too perturbed what I thought lol. Them punches to the head etc. … Well |
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:03 am | |
| Well my …******* Mind eh!
Have said before I thought his win against Klitso was contrived for a return … Tyson renegaded, I believe.
Now, as thought Wilder has initiated the return bout … But Will Tyson go through with it or renegade again?
Tyson Fury’s promoter Frank Warren has raised the prospect of paying Deontay Wilder to step aside and enable a blockbuster heavyweight unification bout with Anthony Joshua this summer. The American suffered a seventh-round stoppage against Fury to drop the WBC heavyweight last Sunday, but he has already signalled his intention to activate a rematch clause that would result in the pair facing off in a trilogy fight by the end of July. Wilder is adamant he has what it takes to beat Fury, despite many believing that he should have lost the drawn first bout on top of Sunday’s rematch, but Warren believes a third encounter is not the right fight for Fury to prepare for next.
Money and … No names out their in today's boxing like once were. Hard to draw a crowd for some!!! |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:13 am | |
| Always thought the clause regarding re match was wrong, if one thinks they can win why insist on a re match?
We do not know Daz half that goes off in any sport, not one I can think of that has not had a scandal or two.
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, including our own sport.
Regards.
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halcanada80 Hatchling
Posts : 208 Join date : 2020-01-10
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:52 pm | |
| Norton, Frazier all the previous champs gave good shows. |
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:25 pm | |
| Went with a couple of my sons for a dinner … Youngest ones treat*turn We got talking regards the Fight. Others joined in. Seems the strong consensus is that it was fix and put up job! A I didn't need to say a worg like. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:17 pm | |
| Think no one would agree to be battered as happened in this fight.
A far more sophisticated scenario would have been worked out had it been a fix.
Why do people always down grade our own sports people???????.
Regards. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:52 pm | |
| Cheating is rife in all matters where money is involved.
You only have to watch a gameshow on the television like The Chase.
Walsh stutters with questions to the competitors, then when they answer a question he says COR-R-R-R-ECT and when they give the wrong answer, he gives the right answer slowly all taking seconds when the show can be won or lost by one second.
When the Chaser turn comes along you would think Walsh had a machine gun in his mouth, he must have known what the questions were going to be and rehearsed.
When the Chaser answers a question Walsh says Corect.
If a simple game show cannot be conducted fairly what chance anything else.
Regards.
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:16 am | |
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Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:41 am | |
| Misty, as Don will also agree, one can hold the punches that look the part. Heavy and hurtful … but in fact are not a lot more than a tap to say the least. Seen, and done some great exhibitions that looked, Blood Curling.'
I did - not recorded, three so-called fight with a heavyweight - when due to the weather or lousy matchmaking or such. I fought - supposedly three hard rounds with a heavyweight - a good friend and a club mate. Well wore different colours and was introduces as from various clubs of course. I looked a lot smaller, and a darn sight quicker lol. Straight of the crowd was on my side, cheering me on. I threw some significant clusters that looked like they shook him up and hurt him. He'd trap me on the ropes, and it looked like he was belting seven daylights out of me. I even held the ropes when the referee broke us and moved him away. I'd huff and puff, and when the Ref asked if I wanted to carry on, I blew out and shook my head Yes. The crowd rose as one. On one occasion I slid inside and hit a great combination he rock and as in a trance. I gently push, and he collapsed in a heap. The crowd never stop congratulating me, and many told my mate he was a bully and got what he deserved even that he should be ashamed of himself. Yes, and a Bully lol. You know, in all honesty, my six-year-old granddaughter hits harder lol. As Terry Downes once famously stated regards Clay knocking out Listen in the first round 'WERE the punch would have knocked the dummy out of the babies mouth.
Yes as Don would verify, sometimes 'Exhibitions' fill a mediocre program. |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:02 pm | |
| Never boxed myself other than mucked around with several pals that boxed for the NCB, the Coal board looked after the boxers welfares very well.
Ernie Markland and Jim Bentley were two well know NCB boxers and lived next door to me, they had a gym in the back yard for training and I did have a go with a younger brother of one of them at times, if I could have knocked his head off I would have done in those days.
Played football at reasonable level along with cricket played both for the army and all through school days.
Played snooker with a friend for 3 hours a week for the past 12 years.
Would never sleep on a night if I cheated any sport, but have at times regarding the heart of which I am eternally ashamed.
Why take part in any sport and cheat? beyond my understanding.
Regards. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:27 pm | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:21 am | |
| Thought when the virus came to the fore Knackered that we may have the bird flue scenario.
Lets just hope it gets under control, but when they are considering shutting down schools etc: ????????.
Regards. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43283 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:53 am | |
| simple solution , no incoming people, and those who chose to go out of the country, dont let them back until they have been in quarantine . |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:42 pm | |
| - Daz wrote:
- Misty, as Don will also agree, one can hold the punches that look the part. Heavy and hurtful … but in fact are not a lot more than a tap to say the least.
Seen, and done some great exhibitions that looked, Blood Curling.'
I did - not recorded, three so-called fight with a heavyweight - when due to the weather or lousy matchmaking or such. I fought - supposedly three hard rounds with a heavyweight - a good friend and a club mate. Well wore different colours and was introduces as from various clubs of course. I looked a lot smaller, and a darn sight quicker lol. Straight of the crowd was on my side, cheering me on. I threw some significant clusters that looked like they shook him up and hurt him. He'd trap me on the ropes, and it looked like he was belting seven daylights out of me. I even held the ropes when the referee broke us and moved him away. I'd huff and puff, and when the Ref asked if I wanted to carry on, I blew out and shook my head Yes. The crowd rose as one. On one occasion I slid inside and hit a great combination he rock and as in a trance. I gently push, and he collapsed in a heap. The crowd never stop congratulating me, and many told my mate he was a bully and got what he deserved even that he should be ashamed of himself. Yes, and a Bully lol. You know, in all honesty, my six-year-old granddaughter hits harder lol. As Terry Downes once famously stated regards Clay knocking out Listen in the first round 'WERE the punch would have knocked the dummy out of the babies mouth.
Yes as Don would verify, sometimes 'Exhibitions' fill a mediocre program. Yes your right Daz exhibitions are part and parcel off boxing and i have done a few to help the club show run so there's enough bouts so people are happy with what they have paid for But as for the fight Tyson was magnificent and that was not an exhibition it was a master class and its called taking the fight to whoever stands in front of you and you not allowing them to take control Tyson exposed Wilder and whoever fights him next (Top class fighter) not a low ranked fighter was to take the fight to wilder will beat him Full Respect Tyson |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43283 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Tyson Fury .... Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:03 pm | |
| i think your right about that don, all great fighters ive followed over the years fight their fight, not simply "respond" to the opponents game plan .......take the great marvin hagler, he forced the pace and executed his own plan, also fighters like hector comacho , ray leonard , hearns and even ggg etc etc stuck to their plan , even if they were beaten .......wilder has no or virtually no basic skills, he simply relies on a big punch, and if he cant land that hes lost , he doesnt have a plan b . |
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