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PostSubject: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 8:26 am

Just a quick question...how do those with early bred ybs get them out...its a struggle to get my old birds out in these conditions nevermind ybs...do they not too strong on the wing kept in ...I couldn't cope with ybs too early but a lot do and goodluck to them ....just wondering
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 8:36 am

alot keep them in until a few months old ...always bred a little later for myself but had to pair earlier this year for one loft ybs ...will be parting again after this round as the wifes got worse and its just to much work as the little fella is home schooling to ,its all go bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 10:21 am

Exactly Darren and people in the same or similar situation how do they manage with letting ybs out...
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 11:46 am

learnt the hard way, anything that can only flutter gets nailed, sparrow hawk the deadliest and the peregrine takes them that make it skywards, got to be strong on the wing here, pros and cons but last year only lost one off the loft
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 11:51 am

Probably big aviary Ray, get them out in that daylight hours so they get used to surroundings. Or they are retired, partnerships on shift work, or don't work and have plenty time on their hands to get them out when the weather is a bit kinder maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 12:50 pm

a common benchmark (nothing to do with me or my ideas) is to keep them in until the eye colour changes ,had 14 dutch pigeons did the same with them lost 3 when let out ,save the aggro breed later Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 1:37 pm

Heard that before oldstrain many years ago.

I think they maybe a bit strong on the wing though,
and if spooked away we go too far to get back.

I am sure as with almost everything pigeon some will have had
success whilst others ????.

Me thinks best to make avoiding the time when the sparrow 
hawk is most active, can ruin a young bird team.

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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 1:46 pm

Thats my question how do you get them out when its horrible like now and forecast for the next 10 days... I myself  would worry about it ... thats why no hurry to pair my second stock team up
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 2:30 pm

winter breeding is not worth the hastle ....drives you nuts when the waters always near freezing cant be good eh its no coincidence the best ybs are born in warmer weather they get fed more etc... at least end of january for pairing for me and thats even to early
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 2:48 pm

an aviary like colin said, out all day to get their bearings..........plus in that time spent in the aviary the eye will change as darren said...a lot do this with good results.

failing that ray, let them out and stand in the rain and cold watching them, simples .......... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 2:54 pm

May be they have someone who can let them out or they just don't work then its not a problem
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 2:59 pm

Done it this way for years. Water heated. Light bulb in biscuit tin with holes in the lid. Waterer sits on top. When big enough they go in to an aviary. Watch the hawks chase the barn pigeons. They are out there most weather. Snow or rain. Sure strong on the wing when first out. Usually Marc end or April. But with the aviary they know the area for miles. Losses? Very few. Each to their own.
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 5:47 pm

Well I wouldn't let ybs out in this weather,  even old uns stay in , its that bad ...I have ybs in the nest now only because they are for specialist racing otherwise I wouldn't bother
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 7:50 pm

End of March or beginning of April. Nothing out until then. Hence the aviary. As stated, strong on the wing. But they know the area.
Guy on the East coast, little milder, has 127 weaned flying out. Beleive he sells a lot also, later ones. He uses an oil filled radiator for heat. Safe that way.
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 7:55 pm

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End of March or beginning of April. Nothing out until then. Hence the aviary. As stated, strong on the wing. But they know the area.
Guy on the East coast, little milder, has 127 weaned flying out. Beleive he sells a lot also, later ones. He uses an oil filled radiator for heat. Safe that way.

yeah cheap enough to run to ...you can get them single tube to mount on the wall to ...ybs looking well hal
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 7:59 pm

Would not breed early out West. Alberta.
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 8:03 pm

Do not think I have ever expeienced such temperatures do not think I could cope how you do it and breed pigeons etc; ??????.

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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 8:04 pm

Shocked Shocked Shocked now thats cold eh ....freeze yer lungs that
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 8:05 pm

Only the odd days we get that low. Guys out there breed early though. Pigeons adapt.
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptySun Feb 07, 2021 9:04 pm

Bloody hell..no thanks ...you keep it ...0 degrees is enough for me lol
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Would not breed early out West. Alberta.
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That's criminal Hal Wink Wink posting such a thing here etc Very Happy Very Happy we know climate change is coming Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes but looking at your report card bounce bounce Armageddon may be the way to go I suspect Wink Wink. cheers & take care.
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Shocked Shocked Shocked now thats cold eh ....freeze yer lungs that
lol! lol! lol! nuts & balls Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes was my way of thinking down here etc O/S Very Happy Very Happy.    cheers alien flower afro
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PostSubject: Re: Letting ybs out    Letting ybs out  EmptyMon Feb 08, 2021 8:25 am

these winds are icey cold, glad i dont have any birds out flying ....
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Thats my argument david ...how could you
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