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    PostSubject: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:30 pm

    been told about this treatment for young bird sickness, and it is supposed to work....

    The 3 steps will not stop young bird sickness coming into your loft, but it will 100% clear young bird sickness from your birds in under 30 HOURS.

    First off how do our young birds catch the sickness, at one time you would catch young bird sickness when you mixed your birds with others when training, or the first or second race, they come back from the trainer or race and by Tuesday pm they are being sick, and it takes 2 or 3 weeks before they can be race again, now fanciers are catching sickness long before they are mixed with other birds I personally believe the sickness is air born and it can now spread just by your pigeons flying with other youngsters when you let them out. Yours come back from flying with 5 or 6 youngsters from another loft and land with yours, this could be another way,
    ONE of the first signs is when they land after a fly you will see 1 or 2 pecking at the floor, picking up bits of wood or plastic or anything the birds can or pick up, the young birds seem not to know what to do with themselves, when you call them to come in the shed 1 or 2 just will not go in and you know they are hungry they seem to not know the way to go into the shed. And when they do go in they eat for England, it starts off with 1 or 2 and in the end you have up to 60% of the birds acting this way these are a couple of signs to look for.

    Also when you let them out you open the doors or trap and they just look at you, they just don't want to fly, if you chase them out they fly for about 15 mins, also they tend to go off their food slightly, tend to take longer to clear their feed.
    In the mornings handle 6 to 10 birds each day to find out if they have corn still left in crop this is the last sign before young birds sickness, so keep a close eye on them.

    I will tell you now the 3 steps will only work if you have got young bird sickness, just because birds have corn in crop in the morning, this does not mean they have the sickness. If you have birds that are not digesting their corn at all, then you can use the 3 steps.
    Lets say you feed your young birds Monday AM and by Tues AM, they still have corn in crop then yes use the 3 steps.

    PRODUCTS YOU WILL NEED =

    There are 2 products you need to purchase, 1 from the supermarket first is SODA CRYSTAL.
    The second product from a chemist is MEDICINAL CHARCOAL TABLETS, which contains 100 tablets cut in half this will give you 200 doses, you give half per young bird (make sure you buy tablets not capsules they are more expensive) I buy mine from BOOTS £2.99 for 100 tablets. They work on old birds too, if they are having problems with vomiting.

    RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU DO =

    If the young birds retain the corn for more than 24 hours or being sick, the following will be sufficient to treat 20 birds so you will have to make up as required:
    ADD 5 teaspoons of soda crystal and 100 mls of warm water and stir till dissolved, it doesn't matter if you put 10 teaspoons you can not overdose with the amount.
    So do not worry it will not hurt them, you need a syringe to syringe 5 ml down each birds throat, this will make them vomit up all the corn in the crop.
    Leave them for half hour, if they have not been sick syringe 5 ml more down each birds throat you must make them SICK, the soda will sterilize their crop.
    When they are sick feel the crop you might have to syringe them 1 more time, you must make sure the crop is completely empty of all corn, once you make sure the crop is empty let them rest for half hour then give them half of charcoal pill each.
    When you are making them sick place them in a pen with grids or upturn a crate so they can not pick up corn when they are sick, OR you will have to watch them.
    REMEMBER this works in seconds as soon as you syringe the 5 mls down the throat they will vomit straight away.

    The next part is the most important once you give half of charcoal pill you must not feed for 26 HOURS please do not feed THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT.
    Now when you feed you must only give them DEPURITIVE or DIET and you only give each bird quarter ounce only NO more that day.
    The reason for the half pill is it goes through them and cleans them through from crop to back end.
    And you only give them a light feed to start with the next day to start the crop moving, give birds quarter ounce depuritive or diet mix late evening. On second day, half ounce depuritive. On third day 50% depuritive 50% corn, once AM and the same late PM.
    Next day feed back to normal, young bird sickness gone, you must follow instruction VERY IMPORTANT.

    SO THE 3 STEPS ARE =
    1 - SYRINGE 5ML DOWN THROAT TILL SICK
    2 - HALF CHARCOAL PILL FOR EACH BIRD
    3 - DO NOT FEED FOR 26 HOURS

    From now on you do not have to worry about young bird sickness you now have the tools to deal with it.
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:24 pm

    Thanx David, some great advice, where do you get this info? flower
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:27 pm

    david i use nyfuramycen for five days this does the trick must starve them first 24hours then build them up gradually first on depurative then depurative and good corn then finaly just good corn
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:46 pm

    got this info off the internet, ive been told it is on sale in the bhw for 35 pound !!!
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:11 pm

    dont know if it works but if it does thats great....some must have been paying for it from the bhw tho and its expensive if it doesnt work isnt it ?
    suppose its worth a try if ever anyone gets it.... No
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:04 pm

    nyfuramycin only cost about £3 and it works david
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:49 pm

    thanks ian, its always good to know these things, touch wood i wont need it tho.... Suspect
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:13 pm

    have you ever had young bird sickness everyone i know gets youngbird sickness every year
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:43 pm

    no ian, ive had ybs in 08 and 09 but not had it.....most likely because i havnt raced/trained with other pigeons from other lofts ??? plus i never let strays into my loft so therfor my pigeons never come into contact with any other pigeons.....?
    how is it supposed to be caught ?
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:21 pm

    its air bourne as far as i can gather
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:23 pm

    thats why mine dont get it then isnt it ian, because they are not in contact with other birds in panniers ?
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:27 pm

    but they still get out dont they , i had young bird sickness before any training and before any contact with other birds
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:31 pm

    mmm, strange then, fancier once said that he always got it when he was on darkness.....when he went back to natural he has not had it since. dont know if its right but he swears its right. Question
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:37 pm

    spoke to many people who dont do darkness and they all get it so that theory is out
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    PostSubject: Re: Treatment for youngbird sickness....   Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:45 pm

    yeah, i suppose he will swear by it as its what hes experienced.....as long as there is a cure at least it can be sorted out anyway cant it, even if we do get it.
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