that's it cock or hen

just let 12 birds loose in the loft see what is cock or hen

i bet its mayhem in there george

few i was not sure about
not breeding of any bird were ybs got lost

Your methods George are amusing but confusing.

Regards.

i don't club race all ybs gifted i'm too ill to plan anything

im hoping to pair up january but need to get the loft floor sorted first before i put them together

i'm just seeing if they all pair up

ive some hens just laid this last week, maybe the weather is getting milder ...?

Cannot understand all this about floors and nest boxes, perches etc;

Just basic common sense.

If you have to keep changing and updating the basics you have just got things wrong from the start.

Regards.

i did not have nestboxes before i cn i upset them most are new birds

George, most things pigeon wise are to suit the fancier, the pigeon does not have a say, why do you think in some posh lofts the pigeons choose other than that the fancier thinks is best, any nook or cranny they can get into.

Given a choice they would choose other than what the fancier thinks.

Regards.

one of a few pairs need to build a nestbox for them

Can remember as a kid George using orange boxes in numerous ways.

Do not think I ever had unhappy animals George never worried about what others thought, just thought about what I could do to keep as near to nature as possible

But in your case George if the loft is dry I would just bang together a few nest boxes from anything you can lay your hands on do not need to be posh, will not make one iota of difference to the young bred in them.

Regards.

ive plenty of pairs who prefer to lay on the loft floor, they rear decent ybs too ..... personally i dont like it but if they are happy i leave them to it .

old eeasibed  lifted and new put down few more jobs done to-day

is it that horse bedding george .......?

yes David dust free

George & Morgan wrote:

yes David dust free

Would be reluctant to feed on top of that myself for any length of time.

Regards.

i remember darren using some pellet type litter, cant remember what it was but it seemed good stuff .........

i'm using tesco cat litter out of necessity, it's dark both ends of my shift so birds get mucked out at weekends only, at least till the racing starts. Their feet seem clean enough so far anyway but they started meowing instead of cooing

do they eat it colin ...?

David wrote:

i remember darren using some pellet type litter, cant remember what it was but it seemed good stuff .........

it was a small absorbent type of stone david i am not sure who made it but was good stuff but to be honest wood chips are just as good i used the ones sold in jollyes for reptiles

David wrote:

do they eat it colin ...?

They picked at it to start with David but soon stopped, it's just like chalk chippings to look at

George & Morgan wrote:

yes David dust free

Gave away worrying about dust here etc George years ago I'm Watched one of those Videos as one does about a Belgium type champion back when & it was an absolute dust storm type environment in his loft there everytime he walked in it type thing.

have 10 birds which if did escape would not matter so took corridor down back to 10x6ft loft all jobs are hard work now