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bad
In egg (newbie)
Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-22
Location: Qatar
 | | Subject: Need Help & suggestion Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:32 am | |
| Hi frnds I need some help/suggestion from u:) I have 2 pair of show pigeons and i'm facing some problems with their eggs for past couple of months, the eggs some times infertile or dead in shell  , starting until this month i used to feed them with local nuts but now i have changed to branded mixture (Mariman Mixture from Belgium) and i use to give them mixed grit, egg shells + ACV & Garlic with water weekly. What could be the reason for infertile eggs/Dead in Shell? 1. Is the food which i gave them earlier? 2. Any health issues? 3. Could be because of disturbance which occurs when i place the food bowl to them, and while cleaning the cage? ( i use to feed them thrice a day & doesn't keep them bowl always in loft, will take it out in 10-15 mins, and once in 2 days i use to clean, only changing the papers) 4. The temperature could effect? (the temp... is nowadays on 45+ here) If any one has experienced this issue earlier pls help me to solve this problem as quickly as possible:) Thanks in advance for everyone |
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kev d
Hatchling
Posts: 838
Join date: 2009-12-28
Age: 46
Location: wellington
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:56 pm | |
| hi mate , the only thing i can think of is your pigeons need
some where private to nest they will be disturbed if they havent they might be
getting frighted by cats or hawks and comming of there nest and not incubating properly
so make some alterations to your cage so they have some privacy also keep feeding them the good corn
and make sure they are lice free . good luck |
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Rene A
Youngbird
Posts: 2604
Join date: 2010-01-24
Age: 41
Location: Guernsey
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:15 pm | |
| | kev d wrote: | hi mate , the only thing i can think of is your pigeons need
some where private to nest they will be disturbed if they havent they might be
getting frighted by cats or hawks and comming of there nest and not incubating properly
so make some alterations to your cage so they have some privacy also keep feeding them the good corn
and make sure they are lice free . good luck |
agree with this and also treat for red mite |
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bad
In egg (newbie)
Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-22
Location: Qatar
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:22 pm | |
| | kev d wrote: | hi mate , the only thing i can think of is your pigeons need
some where private to nest they will be disturbed if they havent they might be
getting frighted by cats or hawks and comming of there nest and not incubating properly
so make some alterations to your cage so they have some privacy also keep feeding them the good corn
and make sure they are lice free . good luck |
Hi mate
There is no any access for cats, dogs or any other animals in my area its 100% sure, also i use to spray them for mice, lice & etc.... |
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kev d
Hatchling
Posts: 838
Join date: 2009-12-28
Age: 46
Location: wellington
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:44 pm | |
| hi bad , you don,t say where your from , but if your keeping them in a cage
you can bet your bottom dollar some thing is up setting them to leave the nest .
im no expert but but you might have to do some detective work to find out . |
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bad
In egg (newbie)
Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-22
Location: Qatar
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:56 am | |
| | kev d wrote: | hi bad , you don,t say where your from , but if your keeping them in a cage
you can bet your bottom dollar some thing is up setting them to leave the nest .
im no expert but but you might have to do some detective work to find out . |
Hi buddy
I'm from Qatar, as far i noticed them, they doesn't leave the nest, they hatch very well, but something goes wrong while hatching, i've an strong doubt on my previous feeding. May be the feed didn't provide enough nutrition's to the baby. |
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steve1952
Youngbird
Posts: 2453
Join date: 2009-12-01
Age: 59
Location: Newport isle of wight
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:12 pm | |
| seen a post about this somewhere, 1 of experienced flyers will explain, its something that makes shell too hard for y/b to break through it not sure if its something to do with humidity |
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David
Oldbird
Posts: 18924
Join date: 2009-03-17
Location: Leeds
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:08 pm | |
| like the new avatar steve, which bird is this one..............? |
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bad
In egg (newbie)
Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-22
Location: Qatar
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:58 am | |
| | DAVID wrote: | | like the new avatar steve, which bird is this one..............? |
oops i have no idea what kind of pigeons they are 
one pair looks like this http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/3189873551_04bfdea50e.jpg?v
and the other same as this http://images04.olx.in/ui/6/85/89/1274711383_93387689_9-Pictures-of--FANCY-PIGEONS-FOR-SALE-1274711383.jpg |
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steve1952
Youngbird
Posts: 2453
Join date: 2009-12-01
Age: 59
Location: Newport isle of wight
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:20 am | |
| | DAVID wrote: | | like the new avatar steve, which bird is this one..............? |
sire is off top flyer in club cauldwell van reet dam same breed as sire off steve b on here, y/b is cock silver mealy weaned 1 week ago |
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big pete
Hatchling
Posts: 416
Join date: 2010-04-01
Age: 54
Location: lanc's/yorks border
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:39 pm | |
| hi mate have you ever treated for paratyphoid, that can cause dead in shell, parent birds can seem ok but can be carriers, its the only disease that can be carried in the ovum, I always treat before pairing. just another option  |
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bad
In egg (newbie)
Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-22
Location: Qatar
| | Subject: Re: Need Help & suggestion Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:44 am | |
| | big pete wrote: | hi mate have you ever treated for paratyphoid, that can cause dead in shell, parent birds can seem ok but can be carriers, its the only disease that can be carried in the ovum, I always treat before pairing. just another option
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I've never treated them for paratyphoid, after seeing your reply, i just went to the veterinary shop, but here they don't have med for paratyphoid, but the guy gave AVITRYL (Jordan) oral solution & Lutricyline (France) Oral Powder, and he said me that it will cure the egg problem, also he mentioned that this med's are for Salmonella & paratyphoid.
Do any one has any idea Oral powder/solution is good for pigeons?
Is paratyphoid & Salmonella is same or different kind of Diseases? |
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The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
