Medicines for pigeons

Heres one for you folks, what with all the medicines on the market, do they damage the birds immune system are we now paying the cost for the large number of bird loses
Ken

yes ken i think it does too much treatment knocks down natural amunity

I remember when i first got into racing pigeons many moons ago, no medicines were heard of, the most y/b u bred was about 10 out of these ten you would still have 9 left, proberly move about 4 over to the old bird section, as you hadent lost many of those. pigeons were crossed into other breeds to try and get that extra yard in speed, this all change when the medical men ( moneymen ) decided to try different potions to gain the extra speed, we read all the hype you must give them this that and the other if you want to compete with the best, so what did we do we believed the hype bought the stuff, fed it to the birds, now i feel after 20 odd years of doing this we now breed 100 y/b to finnish with 20, most of what we gave or give our birds is garbage not all of it but most of it, because of this we find we have to give the birds potions just to prop them up, yes they have got faster, but at what cost ,not only to the birds but our pockets
Ken

couldnt of said it better myself ken

totally agree on that point.why do they need all these tonics and extra vits and stuff to stop this and that.i think over a period of time and pigeon generation that now thy need this stuff just to stay alive.we should all go back to using just things like garlic in the water with a rusty nail in the drinker.especially now we give birds antibiotics for this and that only to introduce tougher strains of all these ailments.i will be going back to the old way of keeping birds fit and healthy.nut any bird with signs of disease.treating birds anually or every six months is a big no no for me.

Ken agree with Ian (oh no) and yes i could not have said it better

SPOT ON MATE

ha ha ha you always make me laugh

pack it in ian and don youre getting forum a bad name, FLYERS WILL THINK YOU 2 ARE BIG MATES

ok steve sorry mate cant be having that can we

exactly ken

what did you mean ray by , exactly ken

that we have to give them this that and other to compete

Wel I can honestly say I put nothing in the water, except after a race some honey and electro,s...I never use potions I have tried a few over the years, total rubbish. learned from my sistakes, and only use a few natural things like garlic and honey and lemon juice.

rudderfett wrote:

Wel I can honestly say I put nothing in the water, except after a race some honey and electro,s...I never use potions I have tried a few over the years, total rubbish. learned from my sistakes, and only use a few natural things like garlic and honey and lemon juice.

spot on martyn

Ken

martyn so do you never treat,

Ian i thought we were getting on (thank god not)

Martyn if you look back several months i did say to people the best thing to use was honey as i always used honey with pure lemon juice as there first drink after the race

hi don, is the honey to replace lost energy.....? is this equal to using electrolytes?

Don Webb wrote:

Ian i thought we were getting on (thank god not)

your so funny donn should be on the stage make me laugh everytime

so i take it that honey replaces lost energy?

geordiejen wrote:

so i take it that honey replaces lost energy?

as far as i know it does to a certain extent, i think its like using glucose which does the same..........its also been used as an antiseptic in the past too.......

Yes the honey replaces the lost energy and it's pure and natural

You could even use sugar also

wonder how many of the members use electrolytes in water when birds return from a race..........? we used to on the saturday and then i think it was tea on sunday.