visit new pigeons site

thats true graham, but we must bear in mind this man only speaks very basic english........his site is in dutch. you have spoken to him yourself on the chat and will accept the conversation is very hard to follow.

yes his posts are mainly to sell his pigeons but at least he isnt joining the site to cause trouble like some have in the past......

i agree he seems a nice chap

but to be honest david and this is just my opinion will these same people be prepared to pay a fee on other sites i think not and im not that easly roped in by people you could if you want add a note to the sign up any member wanting to selll ites over the value of 20 pounds to pay a fee this could be used for any desaster fund lets see how many sign up then and advertise

agree with everything thats been said, he's a nice bloke, hes not pushing birds on us...just a link to his site and im sure most (like myself) like to have a look at pigeons and hear of fanciers from different countries

that what was thinking. love to see his bird;s.
and his set up.
i would think if you were to buy some bird;s .
it would be a bit of a hassel to get them here.

i wonder if he is interested in the young bird exchange. 2012

Alex wrote:

agree with everything thats been said, he's a nice bloke, hes not pushing birds on us...just a link to his site and im sure most (like myself) like to have a look at pigeons and hear of fanciers from different countries

yes alex always nice to see how things are done in other countries and we should encourage it onto the site

OK take all your points what i was trying to say if someone was joining the site just to sell birds then they should make it clear at the start. they should also take part on the many topics we have what i sensed with Jaap was he saw a opportunity to market his birds free of charge on a site which could be viewed by anyone other than members and if he were to be successfull it could draw sellers were i see the site more about topics it was nothing to do with members selling i have had a look at Jaaps site and it looks a bit more than just a racing loft to me So Jaap you are a member and welcome lets have some of your views on our topics george

HALLO FRIENDS

I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DO NOT SELL BIRDS
I WIL YOU JUST IMAGINE MY SITE
AM NOT WITH PIGEONS IN BLACKPOOL

MY PIGEONS IS MY HOBBY

YOU ARE IN HOLLAND YOU WELCOM
TO LOOK AT MY BIRDS
NO FOR SALE MY BIRDS

JAAP

The COMMENT about BLACKPOOL I think was directed towards me Jaap. Not that it's any of his business.
We sell birds once a year, we are not a professional stud. If the pigeons were a business, then I'm afraid it would be a non profitable one.
OK, the selling of the birds does ease the financial burden a little, but it does go back into the pigeons.
At Blackpool, we sell under the supervision of the RPRA and have to adhere to their guidelines. We don't sell birds anywhere else.
This also does not come for free. We have to pay for the privilege.
In this day and age, to become a good fancier and a good competitor. You have to also become a good loft manager.
I don't think there is a fancier, on here, who wishes they could afford better stock birds.
In this sport, the key to any success, is progression, dedication, self sacrifice and education. Plus the financial implications.
To successfully build up a good winning family of your own it takes around ten years of breeding, line breeding, inbreeding., outcrossing. When you have an intense breeding programme a lot of time and effort goes into it. Including masses of paperwork and record keeping. Kev and Myself are not professionals and we do not make a living from it. We have never offered a bird at an extortionate price to anyone. Ever.
On this site from Day One, I have been open and honest and have never tricked or deceived anyone in any way.
I do however, have many years experience and if sharing my own experiences with other fanciers, helps them progress. Then to me it has been worthwhile.
It's behaviour like this, that has ripped the whole fancy apart and causes huge rifts not just within this friendly forum, but within clubs as well.
I could quite easily shut down my account and say forget it.
But judging by the amount of emails and personal messages I receive, it does become evident that there are a lot of fanciers who do want to progress in the fancy. If my advice to them is of some benefit, then I think it was worthwhile.

gary have told david i am leaving the site as for you i will rember you as the idiot who said 1cockx4hens=28 young birds and then someone had to come on and put you right BYE

Fine, lovely super smashing as they say. Why leave the site?
I aint going to through the whole calculations explanation again. But I will however show the bull system in action over the next few weeks.
Shame on you.

just had a look on jaaps web site and is one of the photos of him with one of the janssen bros....? it looks like him............

yes it does david younger version

looking instesting i for one think gary you are my love baby

Oh thanks mate. I think.

now how about a good pair stock to bred me winners ? haha jokes i got enuff bloody stock

I'm bringing the first batch of the superstars to their new home tomorrow. The old stock cocks, once they get settled in I'll bring up the hens.
Should be fun, Ive even got me camera batteries on charge

lol mate good luck with racing next season i hope to do well next year but dunno have using garlic now haha

Cheers Chris, I need all the help I can get. new club and all. I'm looking forward to it.
I don't see why you shouldn't do well, I hope them birds breed you summat outstanding, best of luck mate.