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    PostSubject: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:57 pm

    cant get any matrix from anywhere, been to my regular two corn supplies and they havnt any, they cant say when the new supplies will be coming either..........i know some say matrix is a big con, and to some degree i agree with them, but ive not had any for nearly a week and i can see the difference in my birds appearance, they looking a bit rough.


    any member know a supplier of it.........????
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:43 pm

    http://www.pigeons.co.uk/gem/gem-the-matrix.html

    order now david you may get it by time racing starts Razz Razz Razz
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:32 pm

    David wrote:
    cant get any matrix from anywhere, been to my regular two corn supplies and they havnt any, they cant say when the new supplies will be coming either..........i know some say matrix is a big con, and to some degree i agree with them, but ive not had any for nearly a week and i can see the difference in my birds appearance, they looking a bit rough.


    any member know a supplier of it.........????

    make your own David save a few quid sean
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:17 pm

    Alex wrote:
    http://www.pigeons.co.uk/gem/gem-the-matrix.html

    order now david you may get it by time racing starts Razz Razz Razz


    13.95 plus postage ....!!! not likely, its only a tenner from the corn shop...(when he has it...lol)
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:18 pm

    seanl wrote:
    David wrote:
    cant get any matrix from anywhere, been to my regular two corn supplies and they havnt any, they cant say when the new supplies will be coming either..........i know some say matrix is a big con, and to some degree i agree with them, but ive not had any for nearly a week and i can see the difference in my birds appearance, they looking a bit rough.


    any member know a supplier of it.........????

    make your own David save a few quid sean

    i have done sean, but cant get the aniseed smell into it..........if its a liquid it will make the mix go wet or sticky and clump, how else can i do it ? redband ?
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:19 pm

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    cant get any matrix from anywhere, been to my regular two corn supplies and they havnt any, they cant say when the new supplies will be coming either..........i know some say matrix is a big con, and to some degree i agree with them, but ive not had any for nearly a week and i can see the difference in my birds appearance, they looking a bit rough.


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    make your own David save a few quid sean

    i have done sean, but cant get the aniseed smell into it..........if its a liquid it will make the mix go wet or sticky and clump, how else can i do it ? redband ?

    get some crushed hemp david
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:21 pm

    will hemp give it the aniseed smell graham ?
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:22 pm

    well it works on fish mate just add a couple of spots of anniseed they will at it trust me
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:25 pm

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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:25 pm

    the mix ive made looks just the same, and also ive got most of the ingredients in it.........once the birds start eating it and realise theres no aniseed they turn thier beaks up at it............ lol!
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:27 pm

    excellent, that looks just the thing graham, ill save that and give it a try ...........thanks. cheers
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:32 pm

    well im sure its cheeper david after all thats whats in matrix

    most animals crave for it i eat the bloody hemp when i go fishing lol
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:48 pm

    ive mixed most of the ingredients myself but if i can get this aniseed smell,taste so the birds like it im sure i could make a big mix of it cheaper than buying it........


    think chris is right, fanciers who use matrix have created matrix addicts..... lol!
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:56 pm

    david get some conditioner and add it to your diy matrix or get some aniseed oil and add it to some hemp let dry off and add the hemp to your grit mix Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:05 pm

    hi darren where will i get aniseed oil from ? and is it conditioning seed ? if so where do i get this ?
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:25 pm

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    hi darren where will i get aniseed oil from ? and is it conditioning seed ? if so where do i get this ?

    red band is the conditioner yer after david and carrs sell the aniseed oil but its called trapping oil ......your corn merchant should sell the conditioner if not, colombine or versa laga and merrimans sell a sneaky mix which are just as good if not better ,i bought a sack of buctons conditioner for £17 but alot of corn merchants sell it broken down in 2 killo bags.
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:26 pm

    thanks darren, bought a bag of redband and mixed it with my own mixture.........they ate it just like matrix, so it will do until i can get some..........

    im thinking of making my own in future as im sure even if it worked out roughly the same price it would make double the amount, and judging by what ive seen the ingredient they love most out of it is the redband/conditioning aniseed...........


    onr thing i did go a bit wrong with in my mixture was too much brewers yeast, but ill know for future......... Very Happy
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:12 pm

    David, Darren always used Red Band with crushed peanuts but the aniseed in the red band they go mad for
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:26 pm

    hi don, yes i used to use redband years ago.....but since restarting i havnt bothered until now, your right it is the redband in the matrix they find most addictive lol!

    i think ill start using redband again when racing to help with the conditioning and the trapping. Very Happy
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm

    David wrote:
    hi don, yes i used to use redband years ago.....but since restarting i havnt bothered until now, your right it is the redband in the matrix they find most addictive lol!

    i think ill start using redband again when racing to help with the conditioning and the trapping. Very Happy

    A lot of the mixtures o n the market are just a slitley different to the likes of the old trusty faitfuls like Red Band
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:34 pm

    once i have used mine up i will make the one sean said because it works out cheaper and as people have said its the aniseed they like
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    PostSubject: Re: Matrix............???   Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:42 pm

    they sooner eat matrix than food lol

    and thats all they go for anniseed
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