well the new birds are settled in quite nice now

well gt the new nest boxes gt the van reets paired and the feeders so hopfully happy days ?

hi steve, how many pairs of van reets have you got, and how many ybs you breeding...?

Go on Steve lad.
What's happened to the Goudies?
What's Jayne said

WELL DAVE ONLY GT 4 PRS OV VAN REETS AND 4 PRS OV FEEDERS GONNA TAKE 2 ROUNDS OUT OF THEM FLOAT THE FIRST ROUND LOL AND LET THEM GO BK DOWN STRAIT AWAY PLUS IVE ORDERED 30VAN REET YB,S FROM SCOTLAND WHICH WILL BE READY IN 2 WK IN MARCH AND MY M8 IS BREEDIN ME ANOTHER 6 VAN REETS ALL FROM HIS MULTI WINNERS SO SHUD HAVE OVER 50 YB,S BUT WILL BE LOOKIN TO CULL BACK B4 FIRST RACE ? AS GAZ KNOWS IM VERY SHREWED THAT WAY ALWAYS LOOKIN TO KILL AS I FINK ONLY THE BEST CAN STAY ? ALWAYS WORKED IN PAST SO WE WILL SEE LOL . GAZ SOLD ALL THE GOULDIANS A WHILE AGO . AND JAYNE NOT HAPPY IM STARTIN UP AGAIN BUT SHE WILL BE OK WEN I LET HER BLOW THE WHISTLE LMAO

hi steve glad yer breedings going well .....steve why cull before they been tested lol dont get me wrong if their week or ill thats a different matter ,seems daft to cull birds before they have been given chance ,i just wondered what your criteria is for culling birds

Steve is more ruthless, than I.
The birds are looked at as athletes and should perform in the baskets accordingly.
Steve's training programme, is like mine. Extremely intense.
They do the equivalent to four races before entering a pannier.
Anything that can't keep the pace, goes.It's that simple.
This was always a topic of discussion when we flew together.
But come next year, every one of those birds that makes it as yearling. Will be there based on it's performance.
Steve's a damn good fancier and his birds will win races, unless Kev's are there first.
Jayne knew,Steve, while the old bird loft still stood there was always a chance that it would be filled with pigeons again
That whistle will be bellowing out FFFFF's
Good luck mate, hope the fresh start goes well

Get sum pics up Steve

good luck steve for the coming yb season

well fanx for coments lads . hope i do well with them but my theory is im very selective as gaz says and maybe that might be wrong but always seems to work for me dont know why but always seem to get a gd percentage of winners or and multi prize winners i was schooled by a very well known top fancier in his own wright he sed to me .every time you go into the yb,s im always lookin to kill andif they give me a reason there gone . ive neverseen any1 kill as qwick in a blink of an eye they be gone . his name was auther mannwaring from acton bridge cheshire he was a very big influence in my early yrs pigeon keepin plus alot of others and then i became his loft manager at 19 yrs old we bred ybs for the likes of frank howard warrington dr riigg wigan even though he wud only have the dark checkers and blues aka barker gitts but thats another story lol the pigeons that i loft manageged forhim were the very succesfull boeykens and vander esp sprint from tom dawson of chesterfield . so i fink had good education lol i won my firstever race at the age of 17 and by 19 yrs old had only bird on day from rennes 13/12 hrs on the wing and now im 46 so its all history from there two many winners for me and other to forget . so this is my theory folks hope it doesnt sound like im a tw-t ? and gaz will do pics wen im sorted the loft and gt this silly camara to install lol anyway look forward to your replys folks

thing is steve thats all well and good but the birds that have been culled may well have turned out to be good birds i just feel that they should get the chance in the basket as when the birds culled you will never know lol

i just wondered what the criteria was thats all ...we all do things differently,what works for one may not for another

i had a yb hen i was going to cull last season as she was late training a few times and this little hen went on to win a 200 mile race and turned out in the end to be my best yb and was very consistent in the end

ye as you say there wat works for 1 fancier may not for another ? i may of culled alot off winners over yrs but dont like to dwell on wat may have been but just glad of the winners that ive produced for me and others over the yrs but will carry on the way i left in 2002 . 10 yrs on ill see wat happens . as i like to hard train them as yb. atleast 2 50 mile singled up and and 4 doubled up at 60 miles before first race so wats there will have something about them . this way i fink it sorts the wheat from the chaff as they say . hopefully ill have about 54 yb,s to start with i only want 16 cocks for nxt yr so they gnna have to fight for a perch re gaurd less of wat there bred from lol . wen you fink of alot ov fancier who discrimatly breed from anything cause they can always fink this is whypeople have heavy losses because they breed rubbish

Bring it on cocker
Better dust off that old cloth cap
Check this out Steve.

Managed to get one out of the old Bullet hen, crossed her with that good blue SVR Cock of Kev's

This is the old Bullet Hen, now at mine.

lol gaz not havin a cap lol lost it m8 gnna have a lot ov work on gettin loft fitted this nxt wk gtta make the new boxes for other sections and pipo boxes for other sections gnna be hectic m8 then new cages with traps on for ets . wen im finished you can come over wid camera and take some pics for me ok and then we can put some on here ok m8 ?

No probs Steve, just give us a shout when ya ready.
Knowing you it won't be long before it's done

stewhit wrote:

ye as you say there wat works for 1 fancier may not for another ? i may of culled alot off winners over yrs but dont like to dwell on wat may have been but just glad of the winners that ive produced for me and others over the yrs but will carry on the way i left in 2002 . 10 yrs on ill see wat happens . as i like to hard train them as yb. atleast 2 50 mile singled up and and 4 doubled up at 60 miles before first race so wats there will have something about them . this way i fink it sorts the wheat from the chaff as they say . hopefully ill have about 54 yb,s to start with i only want 16 cocks for nxt yr so they gnna have to fight for a perch re gaurd less of wat there bred from lol . wen you fink of alot ov fancier who discrimatly breed from anything cause they can always fink this is whypeople have heavy losses because they breed rubbish

yes to true many breed from rubbish,i will only breed 28 ybs from 7 pairs .......all the best for the coming season steve

lol old strain ye fink if you can be selective in breedin thats the way to succes m8 . i fink thats why two many fanciers get dishartened because they loose alot but gd pigeons with brains always seem to come gd in the rite hands lol and gaz wish i cud turn the clocks forward a couple ov wks lol and be all done lol

You will get there mate.
Ya can always come and get me if ya want a hand mate, except for Sunday as Jo works all day.
But most days I'm ok up till 4pm

Wish you all the best Steve hope every thing works out for you mate fingers crossed

One thing with Steve, Don. The term bucket, sh**e and roses come to mind.
He always comes out smelling of roses.

now now gaz dont be like haha

cheers don hope it goes well lol

You know I'm envious Steve.
Don't worry mate, you will get there in the end.