wouldnt it be nice

ive just been on 4 different sites to count their all the members registerd now wouldnt it be brilliant if every member signed the pittion there is a total of 12,844 members total thats not including the the sites i havent counted

Wow Rene, you must have as much time on your hands as me
I think it's just a case of they think it's another crackpot scheme, that will be out to cadge money off them.
Some just cannot be bothered.
Others are just sitting on the fence.
Some might just thing were crackpots with too much time on our hands

lol i hope this works this time gaz

With the help of other fanciers I'm going to give it my best shot mate.
If it fails, well so be it.
But at least we can hold our heads high and say we tried.

your a tryer gaz hope more back you

I'm hoping so mate, because this is going to be given to the RPRA and NWHU and presented Personally in person demand action is taken.
But could you imagine me taking it with just a few hundred signatures.
I'd be a laughing stock.

yes i agree with what your saying gary, unless a lot of people/fanciers take the trouble to sign a petition it apears that the problem isnt that great, even if we never manage 100,000 signatures at least it will be seen that there is a problem and fanciers are very unhappy about the raptors/bops etc.....

That's the one mate. It doesn't mean the petition has failed even if it doesn't reach the target figure, but as you say we need to get the numbers up to indicate there is a problem and it's a widespread one at that.
There is much going on here behind the scenes, but I can't say a lot because as you know there are people now more than ever watching these threads and how the campaign is going.
They think we are flogging a dead horse and if this fails, then it proves they are right. Could you imagine something like this happening in the 50 or 60's.
There would have been an been an uproar.
The raptor worshippers are laughing at us, because they think were spineless.
That's why I put my name and picture to this, I'm proud to be a fancier and I love my birds and I want action taken.
I also want it to be known, that there is a problem and working together, we can find a solution, in a civilised way.

yer put when i post the link on other forums peope just say its been done before nothing came from it thats why no ones signing it they feel its a lost cause so we need a big post we can all copy and paste onto forum gaz to make people think about signing it to show that we ant messing about this time or people just gunno iggnore it not trying to cause issuse gaz just a point im hearing alot

I know mate, one guy should be suffering from chronic indigestion, because he said if I get a hundred signatures he'd eat his hat. LOL
It has been done Chris many times and it as failed many times and why, because the majority of fanciers can't be bothered. They just like to moan about things, but are not prepared to do anything about it.

231 signatures gary.....................

Well just went on pigeonbasics and what a suprise more for help the heros by donating now I'm not saying its wrong they need the money and serve are country and I'm proud of all of them but why don't fanciers do a donation for fanicers incase of fires ect ? Told u gaz let's start are own organisation up haha

Sorry about spelling

they are supposed to already have a fund for fanciers on that site chris, ive never heard of anyone outside their clique getting anything out of it tho............

I no david lol I got more family and family friends to sign it in the past half hour


I think once my fourm has the members ill do a funds were we actly help members and not rip them off

I had a bit of flack on there mate, but managed to turn it around a little.
They are all for the save the songbirds campaign.
Although I did manage to get a good few to sign, a lot think it's another failure, but if think like that it will be.
A lot are sitting on the fence, just to see how it's going to go.
Some are just a little unhappy because because they have tried and and their efforts have failed.
But as I have said it's not a contest and they can all form the little campaigns and they can run in parallel with this one.
The main thing is we get the fanciers themselves to to back them.
It doesn't matter how we get signatures just as long as we do.
But one thing I have said from the start, this action has cost nothing except my time. I'm not asking for donations just their signatures.

setting up a help fund is fine in principle chris, but in reality it wont work unless the site has a lot of members, and are all committed to that site, otherwise there will be differences of opinions when it comes to paying out........

small sites like this have no chance of doing something like that im afraid........

Gaz b wrote:

I had a bit of flack on there mate, but managed to turn it around a little.
They are all for the save the songbirds campaign.
Although I did manage to get a good few to sign, a lot think it's another failure, but if think like that it will be.
A lot are sitting on the fence, just to see how it's going to go.
Some are just a little unhappy because because they have tried and and their efforts have failed.
But as I have said it's not a contest and they can all form the little campaigns and they can run in parallel with this one.
The main thing is we get the fanciers themselves to to back them.
It doesn't matter how we get signatures just as long as we do.
But one thing I have said from the start, this action has cost nothing except my time. I'm not asking for donations just their signatures.

i think 50 % of poigeon fanciers just like to moan and do nothing gary, time they got their heads out of their ar*es and grew a pair of b*lls

I agree mate.
Chris stay away from pigeon politics.
It's not worth the hassle.

We averaging 80 signatures a day. Lets hope it keeps up.

Ill do a guy folks but ill get the job done lol rpra go down haha

David wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

I had a bit of flack on there mate, but managed to turn it around a little.
They are all for the save the songbirds campaign.
Although I did manage to get a good few to sign, a lot think it's another failure, but if think like that it will be.
A lot are sitting on the fence, just to see how it's going to go.
Some are just a little unhappy because because they have tried and and their efforts have failed.
But as I have said it's not a contest and they can all form the little campaigns and they can run in parallel with this one.
The main thing is we get the fanciers themselves to to back them.
It doesn't matter how we get signatures just as long as we do.
But one thing I have said from the start, this action has cost nothing except my time. I'm not asking for donations just their signatures.

i think 50 % of poigeon fanciers just like to moan and do nothing gary, time they got their heads out of their ar*es and grew a pair of b*lls

Spot on David 100% mate

Keep up the hard work Gary with the signitures obtained now just shows people taking notice now mate

hi don, got 12 eggs now........ some not laid yet but not too worried over it.

Great news mate things will work themselfs out and before you know you have a pen full of youngsters to race

Gaz b wrote:

I had a bit of flack on there mate, but managed to turn it around a little.
They are all for the save the songbirds campaign.
Although I did manage to get a good few to sign, a lot think it's another failure, but if think like that it will be.
A lot are sitting on the fence, just to see how it's going to go.
Some are just a little unhappy because because they have tried and and their efforts have failed.
But as I have said it's not a contest and they can all form the little campaigns and they can run in parallel with this one.
The main thing is we get the fanciers themselves to to back them.
It doesn't matter how we get signatures just as long as we do.
But one thing I have said from the start, this action has cost nothing except my time. I'm not asking for donations just their signatures.

once again i will say gary, your a top bloke for sticking with this, and if others stick by you then something will have to be done