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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:10 am | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43108 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:57 am | |
| nice one gary, now we can see who is prepared to stand up against this presicution of our pigeons................ |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:19 am | |
| It's a poor show, when you actually think about it. Even the RPRA Hawk watch map, it's quite clear that most cannot be bothered to even report it. But will sound off on forums about how displeased they are with the whole situation. I have even offered to do it for them if they send me their details. I have had one taker. Now the angry mob have started again, I did ask them to have patience and bear with me, which to their credit, I think many agreed. Since doing the blog, they have become extremely infuriated, or so it seems by the messages I have had this weekend. They thanked me for my time and effort, but said this piss poor response ain't going to help anyone. I don't condone their action, but I have to say, that I am sympathetic to their anger and frustration. Like they say nobody is going to listen to 500 signatures, I have to agree. |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:31 am | |
| SAME OLD STORY GAZ GIVE IT A FEW MORE WEEKS THEN ALL YOU WILL HERE IS MY BIRD THIS MY BIRD THAT MINE GOT ATTACKED AGAIN TODAY BUT FILL IN A LITTLE FORM IS JUST TO MUCH YOU DONE YOUR BIT GARY IF THEY CANT BE BOTHERED TO FILL INA FORM THEN IDE SURGUEST YOU GET ON WITH YOUR BIRDS MATE 500 IS A JOKE WE HAVE THAT MANY ON THIS SITE
AND SOON YA BE HEARING IVE GOT YBS OH YES IT WILL COME FUNNY HOW WHEN RACING STARTS ALL THE AILMENTS POP UP THE MEDS CABINET MUST BE OPEN BIRDS FULL OF sh**e YET THEY DONT GET THIS PROBLEM IN WINTER WHEN THEY JUST GIVE UM CLEAN WATER
JMO THANKS FOR HAVING A GO GARY BUT I THINK THE TIMES COME TO LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN BIRDS AND ACCEPT PEOPLE WONT BACK YOU CUS THERE TO DAM LAZY TO FILL IN THE FORMS |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43108 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:46 am | |
| do you mean the hawk lovers are having a pop at you gary ? if so i think the time for politeness is over and a few abusive replies are needed.........JMO
being nice gets you nowhere sometimes. |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:49 am | |
| No it's pigeon fanciers mate, threatening to open their armouries and do what they have to do regardless. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16287 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:39 pm | |
| Darren, I totally agree mate. But at least it got a response and that was what I was after. On the upside, there was some good constructive criticisms, like the one - Quote :
- I also note the last big RSPB campaign gathered 360,000.
Which is also fair comment, I quoted that we have 100,000 fanciers here in the UK, But yes agree that only 500 put names to the petition. This also speaks for itself. So if that 500 had read that blog and they say to hell with the lot of em as you rightly said it's only natural to want to protect your birds, then who can blame them. It's them the doo gooders, pseudo conservationists who cause raptors to be persecuted, with their attitudes. We know there's a huge problem and rightly so only a few of us have got the balls to speak up about it. But if the small amount of fanciers who did speak up represent the whole fancy and those others did represent the Government, RSPB, DEFRA and the NE, then to hell with the lot of them. It's obvious that we will be banging our heads against a brick wall. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16287 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:23 pm | |
| thats a fair comment gaz these people are so obstinate its a shame as their was a chance maybe to see both sides of the coin but i did note on the blog that certain things dont want to be answered by mr price and co and all they do is attack a certain angle of the debate.i think the best way forward is to ask that we be allowed to protect our birds within the vaccinity of our own property.not one answer to that on the blog because they know its not a unreasonable request and would be viewed as that in the public eye, i would think anyway,who would oppose reasonable force to protect your own |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:43 pm | |
| Your right mate and he is watching this site with great interest. I shouldn't really allow myself to get rattled like that, but sometimes it does get to me. These guys do this kind of stuff week in week out. Who are we, we are just normal folk, with a huge problem. Maybe our arguments can be pulled to pieces, but the attacks on are birds are sadly quite real. Ive got my camera case out today and have got battery chargers on all over the house. I'm going to make it my mission, to go to the allotment and get some live footage and maybe visit one or two other fanciers in the vicinity, just to show the true extent of the problem. It's sods law it never happens when you have the camera. But I'm going to give it a shot. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43108 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:50 pm | |
| hi gary, did you mean one of the middle class do-gooders is watching THIS site closely.....?
if so why doesnt he join the site and lets give him or "mr avery" a debate on our own turf, see how they like it...........not an unreasonable request if they are so sure they are right eh.
come on mr price and mr avery, lets see what you have to say when your out of your comfort zone......... |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:10 pm | |
| The gauntlet has been thrown, I have received a load of signed petitions sheets. Maybe Mr Price was wrong after all. Come on you fanciers. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43108 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:15 pm | |
| can they be added to the online petition gary ? |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:21 pm | |
| No mate, but I think this could be our secret weapon as this is the hidden side, the petition has just got more interesting. Pm sent |
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Alex Youngbird
Posts : 3337 Join date : 2010-09-22 Age : 84
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:21 pm | |
| Theyre not going to stop us that easily lol |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:43 pm | |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16287 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:43 am | |
| sorry don i forgot to stipulate its a bare knuckle bout only and a human ring no corners allowed |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16287 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:49 am | |
| wonder if we could get tyson in our team lol |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:12 am | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16287 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:15 am | |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: Petition Name List Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:55 am | |
| I've sent him four emails now and he hasn't replied to one, maybe you have a valid point or maybe with enough support, we could even shake things up a little. I have also sent Lee Fribbins an email, no reply. But it's funny that all the other non pigeon organisations always reply and try to help in any way they can. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
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