what to say you tel me ?

i was missing one hen bird from yesterday race from buckingham 120 mile ,this mornig i had a phone call wid withheld phone no men ask me if this ring no pigeon is mine and i said yes and do u no wat did he said to me ?if i can transfer to him my pigeon and i ask him where is he calling from and how far he is from my town and he swear at me and phone was off,he phone me abt 10 in morning and abt 4 o clock same hen is back wid no tail feathers at all both wing flights which had my phone no r missing i m shockt ,y hes done to my pigeon like this i could not belive this is my first year i start racing even tho i m not wining but wen my pigeon come back from race i enjoy and love em so much,realy i m very sad today

hi dan, sorry to hear this.....im sorry to say there are some nasty pigeon fanciers out there who will do terrible things like this because you wouldnt transfer it over to him..........it tells you the sort of person he is when he witholds his phone number.

keep enjoying your birds don, you musnt let one horrible man spoil it for you, there are many great fanciers out there who are genuine sportsmen ........

Dan its a sad thing, if anybody finds a fancier doing that to another they should get him banned, Ive had people ring up and ask what it is etc then when you tell them hang up

EssexSteve wrote:

Dan its a sad thing, if anybody finds a fancier doing that to another they should get him banned, Ive had people ring up and ask what it is etc then when you tell them hang up

unbelievable that theres fanciers out there who do this.........

I think fanciers like this are what we up in these parts call strag catchers.
If ever you do suspect a call you are getting is from one of these, play them at their own game. Tell em it was a pigeon that that a poor fancier at the local club bred you.
Say it's never been any good and they are welcome to it, but you cannot transfer it to them as you never transferred it from the original owner, tell em also it's been in more lofts than Dave Allen. But they are welcome to it.
I bet you a pound to a penny it returns to your loft shortly after.
This is truly a sad fact of pigeon racing and it does happen quite frequently.

sad state of affairs sadly more than 1 person out there like that,
had a hen last year yb she was hawked then had a bang and said to dad i wont loose her as she always came on here own,
lost her from kingsdown which shocked me
then november she came back with her wings had been clipped she only came back when some of her flights had come back through

dan wrote:

i was missing one hen bird from yesterday race from buckingham 120 mile ,this mornig i had a phone call wid withheld phone no men ask me if this ring no pigeon is mine and i said yes and do u no wat did he said to me ?if i can transfer to him my pigeon and i ask him where is he calling from and how far he is from my town and he swear at me and phone was off,he phone me abt 10 in morning and abt 4 o clock same hen is back wid no tail feathers at all both wing flights which had my phone no r missing i m shockt ,y hes done to my pigeon like this i could not belive this is my first year i start racing even tho i m not wining but wen my pigeon come back from race i enjoy and love em so much,realy i m very sad today

Dan it happens to almost everyone in the spot but don't let that put a bad light on things use this to improve your love for your pigeons once that bond is there not even 007 would break it mate

yes you would like to get yer hands on these sort of guys ,dan keep at it m8 these things happen but not very often

oldstrain wrote:

yes you would like to get yer hands on these sort of guys ,dan keep at it m8 these things happen but not very often

Spot on Darren

Gaz b wrote:

I think fanciers like this are what we up in these parts call strag catchers.
If ever you do suspect a call you are getting is from one of these, play them at their own game. Tell em it was a pigeon that that a poor fancier at the local club bred you.
Say it's never been any good and they are welcome to it, but you cannot transfer it to them as you never transferred it from the original owner, tell em also it's been in more lofts than Dave Allen. But they are welcome to it.
I bet you a pound to a penny it returns to your loft shortly after.
This is truly a sad fact of pigeon racing and it does happen quite frequently.

thanks Gaz i like that i will use in future

David wrote:

hi dan, sorry to hear this.....im sorry to say there are some nasty pigeon fanciers out there who will do terrible things like this because you wouldnt transfer it over to him..........it tells you the sort of person he is when he witholds his phone number.

keep enjoying your birds don, you musnt let one horrible man spoil it for you, there are many great fanciers out there who are genuine sportsmen ........

thanks david

No probs Dan.
These sort of fanciers are the scourge of the fancy, they don't want to spend money like the rest of us, they want to capture other peoples birds.
I have over the years had many strays in, many just go on the merry way after a feed.
because for whatever reason, they have dropped into someone elses loft, this does not give them a right to ask to keep your bird.
If they were a true fancier, they would have reported and gave it back to you.
Not all fanciers are like that mate, but you have to use tactics when dealing with these unscrupulous theives.
A bit of reverse psychology works nearly every time.

i agree with what you say gary, but there is always the fancier who automatically assumes that if you report one of his lost birds, that he can transfer the problem to you..........regardless of weather you have asked for it. if you state you dont want it he gets a bit upset at the thought that he will have to retrieve it, which could cost him money. JMO

two sides to strays and reporting them .......

I agree mate 100%, the amount that have said to me do the honours mate is unreal. I believe that it should be a rule that is enforceable by a ban or a fine. There's nothing worse than chucking a bird out that doesn't belong to, that won't leave and the owner won't send for it.
I think these forums are a good way to deal with this problem as many will help to repatriate the owner with his lost bird and this is down to the good fanciers that come on these sites

your right gary, if an owner sends the bird racing, he must be held responsible for retrieving it if/when lost.......he cant expext someone else to take on the responsibility for his bird.

this is one of the reasons i rarely allow a stray into my loft and report it, sometimes they are more trouble than its worth, having to keep it seperated and wait while the owner is found or while he decides if he is going to collect it.....

i lost a bird at the 1st YB race last year, he came back just before the 1st race, he had obviously been feeding YBs and had a coloured clip ring on his leg, which wasnt there when i sent him

Yes this isnt a shocking story to long serving fanciers it does go on, but remember most pigeon men are not like this.
2 years ago I lost a blue cock racing, it had been a good bird and won a first and section prizes, so when it was reported serveral weeks later I wanted it back, the fancier wanted to keep t and sais so, I said I would send a courier and he reluctantly agreed.
To cut a long story short the courier said he wouldnt answer the door, he eventually said he didnt want to give it back as it had been flying out and was no good to me.
A friend of mine was working close to him and after telling him the story he knocked on his door when passing there and said he wanted my pigeon, hes a big chap and with a blunt personality and the fancier gave him the bird, obviously shocked by him turning up demanding the bird...thats my story and that fancier is a disgrace but it happens.

That's the way to do it mate, they tend not to be as rude and aggressive face to face. It wasn't Don, was it?

two shocking stories there, how on earth the finder can expect to keep the bird if the owner wants it back is beyond me.........

last year i recieved a phone call from an elderly lady somewhere in the midlands, she told me a blue cock of mine was living there with some other pigeons and doves etc, she feeds them all every day and they all live around her house happily pleasing them selves, i said i would send for it back (steve/swg brown kindly offered to collect it for me} but she said she had heard pigeon fanciers killed them if returned and was reluctant to let me have it..........i reasured her he would not be killed and that a friend was willing to collect him.

i still havnt got him back, and presume hes living the easy life somewhere in the midlands with some old lady..........

How can we compete with that

i wonder if don will go slap her about a bit for me..........PMSL

(only joking don......lol)