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David Oldbird
Posts : 43112 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:33 pm | |
| as far as i knopw the ybs should come off the dark on the 21st june, what happens if i leave mine on for an extra week ? as i paired up in feb i was a week late getting my ybs on the dark so am thinking should i wait a week after the 21st to take them off.........
any thoughts anyone ? |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:37 pm | |
| mine went on the dar april 23rd they comming off 21 june so long as they have 8 weeks its ok but you bred early so yours will be ok to |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43112 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:39 pm | |
| i didnt breed early graham, paired up february........ |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:42 pm | |
| yes but so long as the been dark for 8 weeks its ok |
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VanReet Man123 Youngbird
Posts : 1024 Join date : 2011-03-04 Age : 50 Location : Great Harwood
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| David 8weeks is the least you need to have them on dark for ours have been on the dark since April so they will have had 10 weeks on the dark i no some people who leave them on for longer. |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:23 pm | |
| i think we should ban darkness altogether...i hate it but you have to to it to win races as natural have ,nt got a chance |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43112 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:26 pm | |
| if we bred early then wouldnt the ybs be moulted out before yb racing starts ? therfor having no need to put them on the dark........ |
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EssexSteve Youngbird
Posts : 1196 Join date : 2012-04-22 Age : 65 Location : Essex
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:28 pm | |
| As far as i know if you pair up in december then the young birds are kind of on a natural darkness as the days are still short then you wont need the darkness system |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:30 pm | |
| theres always the light system but not many practice it but ill be going on it next year
its ok to breed early but its creating a lot of work for yourself plus its never the weather to get them out so when it dose come nice for the odd day a lot of birds are to wing strong and just get lost |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:32 pm | |
| yes i know but have you tried this before ,they become the laziest ybs you have ever come across,i know a few who used to do this and these never lasted very long .like i said ban it lol thats the best way |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:34 pm | |
| you may as well say ban widdowhood then |
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andyw Chipping
Posts : 66 Join date : 2012-04-03 Location : west mids
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:39 pm | |
| how do those that work full time manage to do the dark system on your own or do you enlist help to open up the loft and let the light in
andy |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:44 pm | |
| - birdy2011 wrote:
- you may as well say ban widdowhood then
yes but your not delaying the moult on widowhood are you g...your ybs are not naturally growing |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16290 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| it takes about 9 weeks for a body moult mine went on the dark 28th march and i am increasing the lite now ,so they been on the dark 10 weeks but have given supplements to help the moult and all are through it now |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16290 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:47 pm | |
| - andyw wrote:
- how do those that work full time manage to do the dark system on your own or do you enlist help to open up the loft and let the light in
andy andy you only need to darken for 13 hours m8 16 hours is not needed,so just work it to suit yourself |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:48 pm | |
| sorry not naturally moulting |
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EssexSteve Youngbird
Posts : 1196 Join date : 2012-04-22 Age : 65 Location : Essex
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:05 pm | |
| im going to keep mine natural ray, im not doing the darkness, 1 year a yb several as obs |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:09 pm | |
| i,m tempted to go half and half ,i might just put my hens on the dark and cocks on natural..i,ll see what happens as i want to win races but i,ll have plenty of hens to do that |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43112 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:46 pm | |
| like you say ray, i think if you want to win you need to be on the dark (or light) as everyone else is who is winning......... |
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EssexSteve Youngbird
Posts : 1196 Join date : 2012-04-22 Age : 65 Location : Essex
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:55 pm | |
| a lot of the blokes down here do that Ray run 2 teams, 1 they keep for OBs and 1 for darkness, that way if the darkness get YB sickness they are just got rid of |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:04 pm | |
| - David wrote:
- like you say ray, i think if you want to win you need to be on the dark (or light) as everyone else is who is winning.........
Will second that David, you need to do something when big money is envolved like nationals and gold ring races |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:25 pm | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16290 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Darkness YBs... Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:45 pm | |
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