has everyone vaccinated

has everyone jabbebthere youngbirds now for paramixo virus done mine before old bird season started

Yeah ours were done about 4 weeks ago when we moved to our new loft

All mine are done

Mick wrote:

All mine are done

doesnt look like anyone else has done theres lol

IAN,as secretary of our club it is my job to collect the vac sheets in and pass them on to the
fed secretary. every year i have trouble getting them passed on to me from my members.
all our members birds are vaccinated by one designated person in our club.
should be no problem you would think. NO. think again
i know for a fact that they have been done. YET on the last day i had to chase round collecting them
from 15 of the 21 lofts in our club.

the mind boggles why they do this. some of the excuses are amazing

yes same at out club mate all birds have to be done by an official this ensures that all club members have been done but some clubs dont do this they leave it to the club members themselves but do they all vaccinate ,i wonder , but i know where your coming from with getting the sheets in some members have to be led by the hand lol

we will do the lot, stock birds as well, but it takes some organising, as we will also do birds belonging to other fanciers, but it ends up a whole day of a job.

Gaz b wrote:

we will do the lot, stock birds as well, but it takes some organising, as we will also do birds belonging to other fanciers, but it ends up a whole day of a job.

yes but you have peace of mind that everyone has been done

done all the ybs early april obs get done december ...get the ybs done asap

That's the one Ian.

peel bros wrote:

your only fooling yourself if your birds are not done,i done mine every year,has everyone done their for parathyoid i bet not.it was all over south shields 3 years and ago and still they do,nt do theirs

all y/bs where done as they left the nest or where sent up to me thye ones that where sent and theres plenty plus the ones i brought back from belg where jabbed straight away and spent 7 dys in baskets before entering the loft
all birds that are wintered will be treated for parrathyoid by jabbing at present they have been treated for 7 dys on parrastop in the water sean

yes

peel bros wrote:

IANYOUNG wrote:

peel bros wrote:

your only fooling yourself if your birds are not done,i done mine every year,has everyone done their for parathyoid i bet not.it was all over south shields 3 years and ago and still they do,nt do theirs

so youve done your youngbirds for paratyphoid

you do,nt need to do your ybs as they are covered with you doing your old birds,thats what i got told anyway..but all my stock where done twice,where yours

ray plenty do their old birds some jab the y/bs for both at 18-20 days old in the nest but others jab the old birds and that covers y/bs but they do their birds every year thus the y/bs get done also sean

thats what i,m saying sean,mine are covered when i done my old birds twice ,the thing is it was rife in the north east like every where else but some chose not to do theirs,i cannot see why myself but if thats what they want to do fair enough,but believe me it will take its toll on their birds,i,ve been there and i,m not going back to that again..it has cost me a fortune to put ours right but its been worth it .i think we have done ok in the last few years since sorting it out and we,ll not get it again ..these people should hold their hands up and amit if they have problems and we can all help each other,which is beneficial to us all

peel bros wrote:

thats what i,m saying sean,mine are covered when i done my old birds twice ,the thing is it was rife in the north east like every where else but some chose not to do theirs,i cannot see why myself but if thats what they want to do fair enough,but believe me it will take its toll on their birds,i,ve been there and i,m not going back to that again..it has cost me a fortune to put ours right but its been worth it .i think we have done ok in the last few years since sorting it out and we,ll not get it again ..these people should hold their hands up and amit if they have problems and we can all help each other,which is beneficial to us all

well said Ray sean

peel bros wrote:

thats what i,m saying sean,mine are covered when i done my old birds twice ,the thing is it was rife in the north east like every where else but some chose not to do theirs,i cannot see why myself but if thats what they want to do fair enough,but believe me it will take its toll on their birds,i,ve been there and i,m not going back to that again..it has cost me a fortune to put ours right but its been worth it .i think we have done ok in the last few years since sorting it out and we,ll not get it again ..these people should hold their hands up and amit if they have problems and we can all help each other,which is beneficial to us all

Well said Ray to the point and spot on mate

no this weekend i think

iv had all mine done had to wait for them to come round and do them for me and fill in papper work but next year i will do them a lot sooner

peel bros wrote:

IANYOUNG wrote:

peel bros wrote:

thats what i,m saying sean,mine are covered when i done my old birds twice ,the thing is it was rife in the north east like every where else but some chose not to do theirs,i cannot see why myself but if thats what they want to do fair enough,but believe me it will take its toll on their birds,i,ve been there and i,m not going back to that again..it has cost me a fortune to put ours right but its been worth it .i think we have done ok in the last few years since sorting it out and we,ll not get it again ..these people should hold their hands up and amit if they have problems and we can all help each other,which is beneficial to us all

who are these so called people who should holdthere hands up, ray your club is as slack as piss when it come to vaccinating i know one of your members who used vaccine two years out of date but nobody checks do they

these woo have problems ,no where worse than your club for hiding problems and do,nt lie about it ,this new thing going about thats killing ybs ,have you mentioned this problem to anyone.your club has it but we do,nt get to know and they still but birds into races,anyway as long as mine are done i cannot do anything about those who do,nt..i,ve tried in the past and they do,nt want to know....i,m going on and on about this topic like the last onejust stating facts

ray iam not aware of anybody having this problem in our club ,i know somebody with tipplers had it and he killed them all , but i do recall you have this problem , about a monyj back

anyway ray this topic was about the paramixo vaccination have you done yours yet if you have was it done by the club officials or did you do them yourself

If you do it, you do it, if you don't you don't.
I know it's a DEFRA requirement, but there is no enforcement, hence no punishment if this is not done.
Another thing is, how many fanciers actually report outbreaks to DEFRA like they are supposed to do?
If every bird was vaccinated like they supposed to be then there would be no outbreaks.
I reckon all clubs should have vaccination days where the club buys all the vaccines and they are jabbed in the clubhouse by a nominated person and you pay per bird jabbed.. This way nobody escapes and all paperwork is is done by the club.
Preston's Westside is the only club I've ever known to adopt this policy.
Maybe this should also be a requirement.

Gaz b wrote:

If you do it, you do it, if you don't you don't.
I know it's a DEFRA requirement, but there is no enforcement, hence no punishment if this is not done.
Another thing is, how many fanciers actually report outbreaks to DEFRA like they are supposed to do?
If every bird was vaccinated like they supposed to be then there would be no outbreaks.
I reckon all clubs should have vaccination days where the club buys all the vaccines and they are jabbed in the clubhouse by a nominated person and you pay per bird jabbed.. This way nobody escapes and all paperwork is is done by the club.
Preston's Westside is the only club I've ever known to adopt this policy.
Maybe this should also be a requirement.

yes gaz totally agree should be done through the club can only be a positive move this way you only pay for what birds you have , how many fanciers have vaccine left that goes to waste every year , and gaz it is a combine requirment you have to vaccinate your race team otherwise you dont race

IANYOUNG wrote:

Gaz b wrote:

If you do it, you do it, if you don't you don't.
I know it's a DEFRA requirement, but there is no enforcement, hence no punishment if this is not done.
Another thing is, how many fanciers actually report outbreaks to DEFRA like they are supposed to do?
If every bird was vaccinated like they supposed to be then there would be no outbreaks.
I reckon all clubs should have vaccination days where the club buys all the vaccines and they are jabbed in the clubhouse by a nominated person and you pay per bird jabbed.. This way nobody escapes and all paperwork is is done by the club.
Preston's Westside is the only club I've ever known to adopt this policy.
Maybe this should also be a requirement.

yes gaz totally agree should be done through the club can only be a positive move this way you only pay for what birds you have , how many fanciers have vaccine left that goes to waste every year , and gaz it is a combine requirment you have to vaccinate your race team otherwise you dont race

ian you can only race from a fully vaccinated loft that means y/bs straight from the nest but how many do thats the rules sean

we do ours our self and get a couple off the garden to verify this,they sign the sheet thats all i can ask...i have proof that i bought mine and thats all i need to do.anyway i always do mine and always will for both...i,m only cheating myself if i do,nt........

i dont know what everyone else does re vaccinating, but im my own experience ive found its very easy to "cheat" the system if you want to, and say they have been done when they havnt, enough said, i dont want to say too much.