does an ets ring handicap a pigeon

please can you put your view accross do you think that because of the weight of an ets ring that a pigeon is handicapped to that of a bird rubbered

I would say not the ets ring is very light
Ken

read something about this in BHW other day ian, ill find it out and let you know what it said......

i bet theres not much difference in weight between the rubber and ets ring

could it be down to aerodynamics........? wind resistance on the ets ring etc......?

I must admit I have never held an ets ring so I dont know the wieght, and life rings are light also, but I do believe in the drag factor maybe a factor, and upset the natural areodynamics of the bird. ?

do birds fly with their feet tucked up to the body with feathers covering the feet.....?

I think the ETS ring does weigh a little bit more. But not enough to hamper the bird. The draw back of ETS is when the ring comes off or is taken off by others. JMO

amanda

can be done with ets ring/chip or rubber tho if someone gets your birds in...........

in my opinion the ets ring will not make any difference to the birds performance if it did then your so called topfliers would not be using this system

There would have been a lot of research by boffins to determine if the new rings would hamper a bird, so in my opinion they dont hamper the birds, after all how many of us when using rubber rings had coloured plastic rings on the birds legs, Ive used them for years...come to think of it maybe thats why I never won any races, as I WAS hampering my birds with the plastic clip ons

think as your bird as a aeroplane leave the landing gear out and it will drag put the landing gear in and it wont same as a bird it dont fly with the landing gear out so the chip will be tucked away

i dont think the new combi ring will really hamper the birds flying, but think it could damage the eggs when sitting...........plus a fancier i know sent some rings back because they were cracked, what if water gets into the ring and spoils the numbers which are on paper.....? and also rpra say if lugs are filed down the ring is not valid, so it a lug breaks off is the ring also invalid ? as the rings are just being used here no-one knows how they will perform/last.....?

David it makes me glad im NEHU.

it would have been nice if fanciers had the choice of combi or the old type......

i bet the nehu use them before long you watch

i have heard a rumour that the nehu are going to use the combi ring next year how true this is we will have to wait and find out,

DAVID wrote:

it would have been nice if fanciers had the choice of combi or the old type......

I agree with you 100% there David. It should be down to choice.

yes should be but it isnt we will have them next year so they reckon gutted

ian wrote:

yes should be but it isnt we will have them next year so they reckon gutted

yes ian, i think you will.........but by next year we might have found out if they have any drawbacks or faults etc......

yes true david hopefully

i think it said in th bhw that the dutch had them last year and had a few problems with them, rpra recon the problems have been sorted now so well see.....