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PostSubject: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySat Mar 22, 2014 1:15 pm

HI EVERY ONE. just been reading the homing world article in there about having to get your birds innoculated by a vet this is in belgum. could this happen here. if it does might as well call it a day. not many could pay the vet fees. and youngsters could never come into pigeon racing. cheers for now terryp.
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if pigeon persons carry out the correct procedure, i.e. vaccinate pigeons correctly and no stupid cheating, then i see no reason for vets to be involved, if this was to be the norm then it would have been imposed from the outcome cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySat Mar 22, 2014 6:14 pm

I think you just hit the nail on the head, people are cheating and not doing it and that's a fact, Im over the top the other way and do mine twice a year as it isn't 100 % with youngsters and even with 1 jab it isn't enough sometimes.
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I think you just hit the nail on the head, people are cheating and not doing it and that's a fact, Im over the top the other way and do mine twice a year as it isn't 100 % with youngsters and even with 1 jab it isn't enough sometimes.

Differant vaccine to you Rudd down here  etc Smile Smile but that's the way we do it (twice) to make sure they get a proper dose. Strange thou !!!!!  Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes everyone here say they are doing it ??? but we have had 29 lofts infected with the PMV by all reports in my local area, this year  bounce bounce. So I suspect a few are telling porkies, in what they are doing. Finally !!!, between the shakes  Smile  Smile  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad & the PMV issue when it hit down here etc a few years ago was the  finish of it all for me unfortunately back then. Thou !!! my new pill is working now  Wink  Wink & now I just have to get my head around the PMV issue.  cheers
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tbo on the subject of inoculation why should you be worryin about what others people are doin its only there downfall cause its only theres that's gnna striken by it lol andi don't believe for a minute they gt advantage over some 1 that's done theres cause I new a few lads who didn't do theres last yr and they cudnt live with me but I wasn't bothered it wasn't gnna be mine that gt it lol . I do mine either in the nest as they don't jump about to much at 18 days old or as I wean them off to yb section then there done with . jmo like lol
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 12:21 am

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tbo on the subject of inoculation why should you be worryin about what others people are doin its only there downfall cause its only theres that's gnna striken by it lol andi  don't believe for a minute they gt advantage over some 1 that's done theres cause I new a few lads who didn't do theres last yr and they cudnt live with me but I wasn't bothered it wasn't gnna be mine that gt it lol  . I do mine either in the nest as they don't jump about to much at 18 days old or as I wean them off to yb section then there done with . jmo like lol

Very true in what you say Steve  Smile Smile Common sense tell's one what should be done etc re the PMV & for those that wish to dis-regard it type of thing, why should anyone worry if they get their fingers burnt. Here we have to sign a statutory declaration etc to say it has been done, before one can race. Which for adults, is rather juvenile  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes in my view. All that being said, I would never wish to see the situation where it has to be done by a Vet etc as that really would be the finish for a lot of people I suspect.  cheers
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 4:27 pm

do members vaccinate young birds as thy are being taken out of the nest.
or all done at the same time when all birds are weaned.
was told once the needle is put in the bottle it has a short life span.
after a while .
what do members think of this.
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 4:41 pm

anyone that dont do it must be crackers there heading for a time bomb

soon the rule will be either vets do it or when you purchase rings you will only get the rings when you purchase the vacine that way they can monitoer who has and who hasnt brought the vacine dont mean they will use it but there is more chance they will cus they paid for it
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 5:20 pm

a few years ago i used to show giant runts and hungarian giant house pigeons, i rang the company who manufactured vaccine and asked if i should inject them with a double dose due to there size and weight i.e. 4 1b average, i was told that 1 injection of the normal dose was more than enough, as the dose was already more than required, and could i also say that if you inject young birds in the nest at around 20 days old you will not get young bird sickness, any vaccine left if kept in fridge will keep for a good while. hope this information helps cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 6:25 pm

thanks edgie.
we all ways vaccinated our birds in one lot.
but with my son gary getting married last year and moving 130 miles away.
I will have to do it myself . so doing it when thy leave the nest will be great for me. Cool 
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can we do it our selves ? ive always got the club sec to do it with witnesses to sign the form........... scratch 
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will look into it david.
if not will just get some won up to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 7:16 pm

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can we do it our selves ? ive always got the club sec to do it with witnesses to sign the form........... scratch 
if you do your own you know they are done,anybody can sighn it, if ministry want to check they will blood test them at your expence i suppose. cheers 
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ok john, I know one or 2 in the club do it for other members, and they need to have a couple to witness it being done as far as im aware........if you can do it your self or not, im not sure  scratch 
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can we do it our selves ? ive always got the club sec to do it with witnesses to sign the form........... scratch 
if you do your own you know they are done,anybody can sighn it, if ministry want to check they will blood test them at your expence i suppose. cheers 

so to abide by the rules do you need the man who is jabbing them to sign, and a witness or two to see it being done edgie...?
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 7:26 pm

you should have 2 witness and the vacs number on your form should a transporter get pulled over at random and they select lets say 10 to 20 birds the driver and all secs club and fed must have proof all birds on that transporter are vacinanted so if your sec dont check then there in the sh**e and the birds wont go any further down the road the lot will be turned back
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 7:27 pm

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can we do it our selves ? ive always got the club sec to do it with witnesses to sign the form........... scratch 
if you do your own you know they are done,anybody can sighn it, if ministry want to check they will blood test them at your expence i suppose. cheers 

so to abide by the rules do you need the man who is jabbing them to sign, and a witness or two to see it being done edgie...?
man that does them and 1 witnes, if you want them done before i move let me know, its not a problem cheers
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PostSubject: Re: innoculating your birds   innoculating your birds EmptySun Mar 23, 2014 10:45 pm

I think this topic or similar has been discussed before, and I have to admit I have had PMV at my lofts, not my new lofts but many years ago, and if people don't want to vaccinate and cheat then believe me they are cheating only themselves.

It is a savage disease and that's why there is a fuss about it and we need to vaccinate, I even had birds with it that had been vaccinated as ybs once, but they had a milder form which they recovered from after months, yes months not weeks.

If you get it then its at your peril, it wont kill a few birds and ruin a weeks racing it will destroy your loft, which is what it did to mine, they will be sick for 4 months the ones who don't die within days, and that will be most of them, and most of the recovered ones will never race again, never be right and will stay a carrier and threaten your loft, so is it worth a gamble for a few quid you decide, but take it from me you will be ruined.
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To be honest the best way to combat this situation would be if all clubs was to buy in bulk and have a selected date which all members can bring there birds to the club house and be vaccinated

This will provide the required witnesses and this would also allow everything to be recorded correctly

This may help to reduce costs

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To be honest the best way to combat this situation would be if all clubs was to buy in bulk and have a selected date which all members can bring there birds to the club house and be vaccinated

This will provide the required witnesses and this would also allow everything to be recorded correctly

This may help to reduce costs


In a perfect world Don  Smile Smile that could work what you say etc. But real life in this game is somewhat differant for most "I think"  Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes. I would suggest Wink Wink  like in life one has to be accountable for ones own actions type of thing & if one is foolish/stupid enough to attempt to bypass the norm re the PMV, then they will pay the price at some stage & all this documentation etc that is required with this issue really serves no purpose. Except to keep the bureaucrat's/officials happy. cheers
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as far as I know the two forms you get with the vaccine is one for you to keep (copy) and one for the secretary to keep......at all we do in our club is show it at the first yb race or old bird race, and that's it for the season.
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Excellent idea from Don web, make it compulsory, members can get together for marking once they start racing so no excuses for a get together to vaccinate....top man Don.
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Excellent idea from Don web, make it compulsory, members can get together for marking once they start racing so no excuses for a get together to vaccinate....top man Don.

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To be honest the best way to combat this situation would be if all clubs was to buy in bulk and have a selected date which all members can bring there birds to the club house and be vaccinated

This will provide the required witnesses and this would also allow everything to be recorded correctly

This may help to reduce costs

That is the norm here.
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