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PostSubject: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:51 pm

missing in action 3 from the loft 15 in two races,but not one bird reported, whats going on ? Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:58 pm

I bred 33 ybs edgie, got 6 left.........1 of those was reported and liberated closer to home..............where have they gone ???  scratch scratch study 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:08 pm

i think the fancier is worse than hawks david ?. 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:12 pm

hawks and fanciers not bothering to report them will account for some , but surely not all of them........by what ive read/heard there are massive amounts of losses this season.  Question Question Question 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:23 pm

i would say that 1 eighth of the convoy go missing , thats alot of birds, hawkes road kills cats wires pigeon men, my bet is most are put down by the later, but they wont addmit it ? affraid 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:20 pm

i dropped 10 on Saturday went right over the top no brakes all wing stamped they never get reported just 1 big piss off sean
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:43 pm

you wont believe this just had 1 reported , been missing 4 weeks said he could keep it, he obliged cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:21 pm

I had 1 reported out of 27 lost, this season has been the worst so far since I restarted...... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:30 pm

just picked 1 of the landing board tonight
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:37 pm

Massive yb losses everywhere, used to see some stragglers sitting on house tops or picking by roadside day after but dont even see them now.
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:59 pm

wonder if this happens in other countrys scratch scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:05 pm

One loft race here. 850 plus in it. trained to 50 miles. 250 left I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:09 pm

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One loft race here. 850 plus in it. trained to 50 miles. 250 left I believe.

looks like it isn't just the UK then hal.............. Question Question Suspect 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:15 pm

the earth is in its 200,000 year change over period its well known to the powers that be . its happened for millions of years the solar flares r at there highest they will ever be, the poles r close to changing thats why all the ice caps r melting but people r getting fooled into beliving its car fumes making global warming, the pigeons r just struggling like every other living thing at these time add that too un healthy birds, poor fanciers , un trained ybs and bobs and I think we have the answer.only my opinion rant over  lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:50 pm

yes rick, you are spot on, theres no such thing as global warming as the powers that be describe it to us...its a natural cycle......

I doubt very much 4 x 4 `s were instrumental in creating the last ice age etc........ No lol!
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:40 am

Birds will adapt. They have done for thousands of years. Smartest or fittest or survival types will anyway. Hate to say this folks, but in my opinion young bird racing is not a leveller of the quality of pigeons. It is a crap shoot. But must say this, your young birds that return are above the others. Good young birds usually make good old birds. 98% of the time. So why worry about the ones missing? No matter the strain, pedigree or from birds related to Champions, very few Golden Couples breed Super pigeons. 98% are junk. Fancier gets a good one or two from a certain strain he wants to develop that strain. Pedigrees are just pieces of paper. Any thing can be written on them. I have spent a lot on pigeons over the years. Basically two families. Lots of junk but some very good ones bred from them also. So, do not mourn the ones missing. If they were good enough they would have come with the others.
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:55 am

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wonder if this happens in other countrys scratch scratch 


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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:01 am

We have had 4,reported and 2,of them died that's all we have had reported.We had 1,come last night @7.15 from the 3rd race its been roughing it dirty feet and ring's
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:05 am

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Birds will adapt. They have done for thousands of years. Smartest or fittest or survival types will anyway. Hate to say this folks, but in my opinion young bird racing is not a leveller of the quality of pigeons. It is a crap shoot. But must say this, your young birds that return are above the others. Good young birds usually make good old birds. 98% of the time. So why worry about the ones missing? No matter the strain, pedigree or from birds related to Champions, very few Golden Couples breed Super pigeons. 98% are junk. Fancier gets a good one or two from a certain strain he wants to develop that strain. Pedigrees are just pieces of paper. Any thing can be written on them. I have spent a lot on pigeons over the years. Basically two families. Lots of junk but some very good ones bred from them also. So, do not mourn the ones missing. If they were good enough they would have come with the others.
its not the thought of them getting lost, as if they cant get back under there own steam, i for one dont want them, its the total disaperance on a biblicle scale that baffles me ? affraid scratch 
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PostSubject: Re: young birds missing   Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:57 am

never get ybs reported ever I think in 4 seasons I have had 5 reported 3 of them by non fanciers and one reported dead by a farmer and the other by some dodgey geezer wanting a cracking looking yearling that got lost in the 2 races it was entered in  Laughing phoned me with a withheld tel no. and stated he was phoning for his son so I duly told him the yearling was this and that due to his bullshit ....who knows where they get to I usually end up with 60% of me yb team left after 5 or 6 races over the last 4 seasons but where the others get to is a mixed bag I would think ..some not up to scratch mentally,some not having the vitality,wires,bop,some carrying ailments some under trained ,some gone into other lofts and never get reported,and the ones that do get reported seldom are wanted by their owners so a lot don't get reported after bad experiences.look at nehu pigeons ,don't have to be stamped or tel no ring ...what a feckin joke all birds should be marked but these jokers seem to think this is a adequate way to report pigeons through a mediation rather than the person responsible for the bird ...what the fecks all that about  Rolling Eyes passing the buck that's what its all about ...not saying all are like that in nehu but hey you know the ones when the bird aint marked up ....rant over  Laughing
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