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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:13 am

Eye sign in pigeons is always controversial. I studied it for years, eventually realised that race winners or good performers USUALLY breed similar offspring. Like be-gets like, greatest percentage of the time. I had eye sign gurus here years ago looking at the birds. Performance of the birds looked at were not stated previous to their assessment. The results regarding ability to race or breed, were varied. The birds I have now have varying eyes, but being more or less related some eyes are more common than others. But each to their own ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:54 am

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very interesting topic, nice to see more of our members taking part and getting involved..........even though we don't all agree on certain points is good to hear different opinions. cheers

I agree 100% David Smile Smile all views, if taking in with an open mind etc should teach most of us something of value & hopefully, by the end of it all here, we may not be at war Wink Wink. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:35 am

Don Webb wrote:
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had a mate that had a pigeon he called it the cluster cock it bred winner after winner

heres on

http://www.tmakowecki.com/UltBeye.shtml

lets not forget its a theory the bird still has to have a brain and staminer good strong back and muscles and the  will to get home without these it can have 3 eyes but wont make a world beater

G that eye is something different and very few and far between have read the Bob Fleming book thanks to John Wheatcroft

But the eye you are taking about yes it shows clusters but you have to look deep into the eye (pupil) and they are hard to find I have seen loads of eyes and I have only ever seen cluster on 3 pigeons which includes Tom's eye

But you have to look deep into the eye with extra magnifying power to see the clusters

This is JMO as I know nothing

Now !!! Mr know nothing Smile Smile bounce bounce  I just had a good look at that eye from down under above & I'm somewhat confused "Easy done" Wink Wink but Mr eyesign there calls it a pearl eye etc. Would that be your interpretation. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:54 am

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martyn this is the yearling the 9 year old is pair to




George the eye is similar in colour but for me is more a racing eye and needs more depth JMO

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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:05 am

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martyn this is the yearling the 9 year old is pair to






what type of eye did you pair the 9 year old to get this eye George ?

the 9 year olds eye is a very nice eye in my humble opinion..... Razz
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:18 pm

Im a bit confused is that eye the bird the 9yo was paired to or is it the youngster from it, ?? because it have almost an identical eye, so I wouldn't have paired that eye to it. But if its the youngster from it then it has taken the eye from the cock as they are the same as.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:21 pm

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of course it is graham so is the wing, ,throat  and tail what I want to know is the pairing of the eyes and what is a no no

now I do like to see a pigeon with a nice set of curtains (throat) Razz

Here is just a small test for everyone here Smile Smile seeing as you mentioned the curtain O/S etc. Which would you choose as the deciding factor "Only one" at 500 miles into a headwind type of thing, to get you on the winners circle. The curtain Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes or a nice eye with eye sign Wink Wink. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:16 pm

Here is the best eye I own, its from my V.D.B cock and I can asure you that the picture doesn't do this pigeon any justice at all under the glass in sunlight his I has everything, If I were judging eye sign he would be the winner.

Now his father was a crack pigeon multiple first winner, I was given the pigeon and hes very old, but after about 20 nests last year 1 full egg and hes the image of this cock with a great eye, so I will see this year if he breeds winners.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:26 pm

looks a nice eye that martyn.....whats the camera setting best for eye pictures....?
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:28 pm

If this pigeon was young I would have a loft full of these, I would just keep breeding fro it but the previous owner didn't bred anything off him.. David any camera with a macro setting from zero the secret is not to go too close but to zoom in after the picture is taken then it looks better.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:34 pm

ah right, thanks martyn, im going to try take a couple of my own birds if I can get someone to help..........
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:41 pm

yes it is George, and a topic started by you....... cheers

nice for members to share their views and some pictures of their own birds eyes.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:42 pm

George even without the eye pic of your yearling it looks a cracking pigeon mate, looks the part think you have a good 1 there mate.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:47 pm

I like the eye of the latebred George...
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:59 pm

Just been messing about with a photobucket edit to see how to enhance the eye pics, what you all think
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