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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:19 am

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its all interesting stuff eh knackered......... Razz

Oh so true David Smile Smile the more I think about it etc Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes I know nothing  Wink Wink. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:22 am

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This eye is more racing eye for me middle distance, but as a breeder you would need something with plenty of depth with plenty of breeding signs
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:25 am

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This eye to me is a racing eye but has nothing to offer as a breeder JMO
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:28 am

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I would say a duel purpose eye with both breeding and racing signs
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:31 am

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This is a good racing eye with speed lines sprint racer for me JMO

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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:34 am

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Another good eye dual purpose would need a good violet eye to bring the best out of it JMO


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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:36 am

Got to say Martyn the last three eye you placed on the site are top quality, the first 2 were a bit hitty missy

Are last three from the same family of birds that are closely related ??
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:06 am

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Got to say Martyn the last three eye you placed on the site are top quality, the first 2 were a bit hitty missy

Are last three from the same family of birds that are closely related ??

Hitty missy lol! lol! lol! One for the memory bank etc & if I did that here Don Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes I would finish up on my a**e on the floor "Big time" & there would be no tea for a month. Now !!! back to business bounce bounce any chance of getting a true voilet eye posted here, by those with the skill in that department. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:27 am

yes would be nice to see a violet eye and a green eye.....
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:43 pm

I personally look at both eyes, and they can be very different but equall in class but not always in colour...I can assure you that genetically a pigeon takes 25% of each parent and the remaining 50% will be unique to every pigeon, that's why a nest pair can be so different.

Don your right mate the first 3 I think are poor and the next 3 very good eyes not the same family .
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:04 pm

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I can assure you that genetically a pigeon takes 25% of each parent and the remaining 50% will be unique to every pigeon, that's why a nest pair can be so different.

interesting stuff martyn.......... study
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:42 pm

would like to see a eye with a cluster ?
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:48 pm

What do you mean by cluster?
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:00 pm

had a mate that had a pigeon he called it the cluster cock it bred winner after winner

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http://www.tmakowecki.com/UltBeye.shtml

lets not forget its a theory the bird still has to have a brain and staminer good strong back and muscles and the will to get home without these it can have 3 eyes but wont make a world beater
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:01 pm

some say always pair opposite eyes together but I read the janssen bros would pair pearl to pearl etc, if its true it didn't stop them from winning....... Razz
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:46 pm

not a clue about eyesiign george to be honest but wouldnt knock it
how ever them in the know and say weahter a bird will be a racer or a breeder should if its all teue know the short cut to buying champion pigeons

heres an instance for you this year we put 7 pigeons in an eyes sign class for young birds all of which had won prizes and fed cards yet not one won a card in the eyesign class of which 64 was in the class now either all ours have weak eyes me or my mate no nothing about eyes or it wasnt the type the judge wasnt looking for the only thing we came away with was the facted they came off proven breeders and won

so in my eyes ile stick to 90%of the rest of the bird rather than the eyes
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:05 pm

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What do you mean by cluster?

gold or silver dots coming through the pupil supposed to be supreme Razz
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:07 pm

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had a mate that had a pigeon he called it the cluster cock it bred winner after winner

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http://www.tmakowecki.com/UltBeye.shtml

lets not forget its a theory the bird still has to have a brain and staminer good strong back and muscles and the  will to get home without these it can have 3 eyes but wont make a world beater

yeah that's the one Wink
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:10 pm

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of course it is graham so is the wing, ,throat  and tail what I want to know is the pairing of the eyes and what is a no no

now I do like to see a pigeon with a nice set of curtains (throat) Razz
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:21 pm

RAINBOW The eye you posted is a very good picture and you done a great job better than some I mine..lol

That bird has a very good eye what I call a true pearl, that bird I my opinion would have made a very good racer at any distance, but it has an excellent breeding trait so would have expected you to have had some very good pigeons from it.
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:34 pm

so what about a comment on the bird with the cluster martyn
its a proven multi winner yet you didnt know what it ment
so how do you evaluate the birds so many different theories on eyesign and who reads them

how come many winners dont have what the judges call a good eye
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PostSubject: Re: eye for martyn and don   Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:47 pm

I wanted to post this eye picture to show something in eye sign which is my little secret there are 2 secrets but this eye only has 1 but its a good one.
This eye is from a brilliant racer and there is something about the eye other than the usual, like , colour, Iris, Eye sign and so on.

The secret is something you wont see that often if ever when you start photographing your birds eyes, A VERY SMALL PUPIL. So not the eye sign at all although this bird has a great eye anyway but the pupil is tiny compared to the rest of the eye and I associate it with a crack flyer.
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