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PostSubject: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:30 am

This from another site.

Well here is one for my record books.I have not raced YB's for 4 years.Every yr i would get young birds sickness ,just the same as if i raced them.usually around the 3-4 th week of the yb series. Bear in mind i am not racing them ,just training them out on my own,no close up contact with other birds. This yr 2014 i never had any sign of the young bird sickness,for the first time. I noticed 2 days ago some of the yearlings (in the cock section only) did not clear their food from the day before .They looked a little droopy as well. Now its been -15C to -25C here as every where else.So the droppings are frozen.Now i can see where these birds sit and observe their frozen droppings.Creamy white fluid with a little brown worm like turd in the middle of it ,perfectly frozen for my observation. I Notice water consumption is up as well in that loft.As well as 4-5 birds with full crops of food 24 hrs after their last feeding.The rest are fine and had empty crops. This is typical yb sickness as i have seen it in the past. I guess the cold weather put stress on them and it surfaced?? They have full body weight and have no trouble flying around in the loft. This is a first for me.
Now a friend of mine got YBS in his yearlings when they did not get it as a yb,so thats not so new.But in the dead of winter with everything frozen ,is new to me.Goes to show that the bug is in all of them and decides when it wants to come out anytime.Anyone else ever had YBS in the dead of winter.??
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:20 pm

Halcanada you need to break the cycle of the YBS bug and what a lot o f fanciers are doing is taking all food and water away from the birds for at least 36 to 48 hours max

Then feed the birds with a very lite mix nothing heavy plus put probiotic yogurt in the water and feed the birds lite for 4 days then gradually increase the food intake slowly for the next 4 days then check them out often that

The problem with YBS its a virus which feeds of the birds and stopping the food breaks that feed cycle JMO
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:58 pm

Don. My birds have never had it to my knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:20 pm

don't have to be ybs to get e-coli outbreak
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:49 pm

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Halcanada you need to break the cycle of the YBS bug and what a lot o f fanciers are doing is taking all food and water away from the birds for at least 36 to 48 hours max

Then feed the birds with a very lite mix nothing heavy plus put probiotic yogurt in the water and feed the birds lite for 4 days then gradually increase the food intake slowly for the next 4 days then check them out often that

The problem with YBS its a virus which feeds of the birds and stopping the food breaks that feed cycle JMO


Don I've always been facsinated/intrigued by the issues you have there with YBS & like Hal I have never seen it fortunately & for the most part never even had it mentioned etc by my mates here. One of those strange issues that only tend to crop up in certain areas I suspect, but as to why I'm not really quite sure. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:23 pm

Do a search for avivet treats ybs and e coli youngsters will be back to normal in 24 hrs like theirs been nothing wrong I would not be without it when young birds are about same goes for old birds
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:30 pm

i think most have tried every product and every angle to combat y/b sickness my opinion is that when it strikes no loft is safe we have gone against nature and its back fired as it will always do

since taking my partner to the docs last few months theres been a great big sign please dont ask your doctor for antibiotics in 97% of cases they no longer work either someones lieing or its a fact to many meds given
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:36 pm

After having ybs for a number of years I would not risk a breeding season without this product on the shelf
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:47 pm

so since using it you not had ybs is that right and for how long you been useing it
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:59 pm

Been using it for three years now at the first sine of ybs I put it in the water for three days i was looky last year no sickness and I train 4 days a week 30 miles weather permitting
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:25 pm

markevans wrote:
Been using it for three years now at the first sine of ybs I put it in the water for three days i was looky last year no sickness and I train 4 days a week 30 miles weather permitting


Had a quick Google Mark  Smile  Smile "interesting" Thank's, closest I could see for me for was a supplier in New Zealand here  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes if & when required etc. I may just have to go for a wee swim bounce bounce across the pond type of thing. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:31 pm

Very good product I no its best to try and keep away from antibiotics but when you spend a lot of time and money in the birds and they go bad on you you have to be quick to get on top of it and this works for me
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:31 pm

I have found not all ybs in the loft get the sickness which says to me some have better immune systems than others and it always seems the best birds don't seem to get ill ever ...at least that's my observations in my own loft but last 2 seasons I have not had it but also never darkened not that I think that is the factor but has helped reduce some stress.the thing is a lot of fanciers seem to think any illness in the ybs is young bird sickness (adeno coli syndrome) and reach for antibiotics ...its a fact their is no such thing in Holland and Belgium as young bird sickness but their are specific ailments ,young bird sickness is a british thing Razz a cloak to throw over many diseases Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:35 pm

markevans wrote:
Very good product I no its best to try and keep away from antibiotics but when you spend a lot of time and money in the birds and they go bad on you you have to be quick to get on top of it and this works for me

That's it in a nut shell Mark Smile Smile "works for me". Doesn't really matter a rats a**e etc type of thing  Wink  Wink what other people may think. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:39 pm

remember pigeon pox you dont hear of it now should we stop worrying as we all do the best for our birds and if such thing come let the fit survive and not treat we are all our own loft managers and its up to us to decide not keep up with trends ie meds
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PostSubject: Re: Young bird sickness   Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:58 pm

birdy2011 wrote:
remember pigeon pox you dont hear of it now  should we stop worrying as we all do the best for our birds and if such thing come let the fit survive and not treat we are all our own loft managers and its up to us to decide not keep up with trends ie meds

I'm quite happy to go along with your way of thinking G Smile Smile What fascinates me about the meds bit is there is so many of them out there now & it just amazes me how they all survive with the declining numbers in the sport. Their mark up at the end of the day must be quite extraordinary I suspect. cheers
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