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most of it makes sense but not 2 jmo
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wheat germ oil is a new one to me Darren

very good a little on the corn before pairing aids good fertilisation Wink
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Good read. Old hand was so ahead of his time

are their several old hands Suspect

yes there were several old hands Wink
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shippy wrote:
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wheat germ oil is a new one to me Darren

very good a little on the corn before pairing aids good fertilisation Wink

give it all year round but 3 times per week when pairing Smile
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shippy wrote:
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Good read. Old hand was so ahead of his time

are their several old hands Suspect

yes there were several old hands Wink

thanks m8
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been using this for the last 2 years 2 weeks before pairing and up to point of laying
eggs are strong and shiny we use it till the young are ready to ring
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PostSubject: The pigeon Surgery Centre.   The pigeon Surgery Centre. - Page 3 EmptySat Dec 05, 2015 9:22 am

We are moving into the breeding cycle, but after a chat yesterday on planning ahead, i thought this may be good reading for some members.

http://www.melbournebirdvet.com/practical-feeding-for-performance.aspx
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some intresting stuff in here
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PostSubject: Re: The pigeon Surgery Centre.   The pigeon Surgery Centre. - Page 3 EmptySat Dec 05, 2015 11:37 am

I've been guilty of sending my birds too heavy in the past.
But since starting again I've incorporated barley into the feed much more, I've found their body holds its shape well but they seem much lighter.
Still work in progress though.
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Just thought i would post this ready for the new racing season, to help members planning for their races, It may be a good tool. http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=1.25,51.30,500/loc=-109.457,88.775
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That's good Devo, looks like a storm brewing top left
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That's good Devo, looks like a storm brewing top left

Yes Boosey it does mate, I just thought it would be a good tool, for when the birds are racing. Also we are not that far away from starting of training for new season, It will soon be here. lol! lol! lol! lol!
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I've just ordered para stop from de weerd I'm giving them a course of that before I pair up.
Had to save up for it.
It's bloody dear.
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We are moving into the breeding cycle, but after a chat yesterday on planning ahead, i thought this may be good reading for some members.

http://www.melbournebirdvet.com/practical-feeding-for-performance.aspx

Interesting read Devo study study
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Ask yourself this question when racing starts in 2016.

http://www.mclaughlinlofts.com/uploads/Are_Your_Pigeons_are_too_Heavy_for_the_Race.pdf

Devo, Dave Allen of Sheffield did a film about a middle distance fancier in Belgium (Lady Fancier) and her husband raced greyhounds and David said about how weight can make a big difference to the way the dog ran

As this fancier measured the weight of the pigeons also
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devo56 wrote:
Just thought i would post this ready for the new racing season, to help members planning for their races, It may be a good tool.  http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=1.25,51.30,500/loc=-109.457,88.775

that looks brill Devo
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Don Webb wrote:
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Ask yourself this question when racing starts in 2016.

http://www.mclaughlinlofts.com/uploads/Are_Your_Pigeons_are_too_Heavy_for_the_Race.pdf

Devo, Dave Allen of Sheffield did a film about a middle distance fancier in Belgium (Lady Fancier) and her husband raced greyhounds and David said about how weight can make a big difference to the way the dog ran

As this fancier measured the weight of the pigeons also

Yes Don, I raced Greyhounds myself, its a true fact they do have a racing weight, for peak performance. Its all about getting to know that individual, there is a fine balance depending on the distance the Dog will be running. I feel its the same with racing pigeons myself, hope to find out this season.
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The day to day of Growth of a young racing pigeon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzSGr3sQ5fY
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devo56 wrote:
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Ask yourself this question when racing starts in 2016.

http://www.mclaughlinlofts.com/uploads/Are_Your_Pigeons_are_too_Heavy_for_the_Race.pdf

Devo, Dave Allen of Sheffield did a film about a middle distance fancier in Belgium (Lady Fancier) and her husband raced greyhounds and David said about how weight can make a big difference to the way the dog ran

As this fancier measured the weight of the pigeons also

Yes Don, I raced Greyhounds myself, its a true fact they do have a racing weight, for peak performance. Its all about getting to know that individual, there is a fine balance depending on the distance the Dog will be running. I feel its the same with racing pigeons myself, hope to find out this season.

will agree with you 110% George my uncle raced whippets and he weighed them a few days before they raced

here is something of interest if you raced greyhounds did you ever hear of JT Lawley and Peter Billingham they were both top trainers and both pigeon men that won Midland National

Think you may be with regards pigeons weight Food For Thought study
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May be a good read for some members, i know the subject does have many opinions.

http://www.pigeoninflight.com/index.php/miracle-pigeons
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devo56 wrote:
May be a good read for some members, i know the subject does have many opinions.

http://www.pigeoninflight.com/index.php/miracle-pigeons

health,health,health is the number one factor in racing pigeons ...you can have the best of the best but if not healthy forget it raceday and ybs will drop like flies
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Thanks Devo, good read. study
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oldstrain wrote:
devo56 wrote:
May be a good read for some members, i know the subject does have many opinions.

http://www.pigeoninflight.com/index.php/miracle-pigeons

health,health,health is the number one factor in racing pigeons ...you can have the best of the best but if not healthy forget it raceday and ybs will drop like flies

True O/S Smile Smile Simple etc. Would be a very short book thou on pigeons I suspect lol! lol! lol! if we ever got around to wrting one. cheers
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Does anyone use Seaweed Grit, it would be good to get some feedback. Do you think they may be too much salt in grit while feeding young.
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