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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:45 pm

Hsl that is a great film.
A real eye opener.
Nothing but fresh water.
Barley in front of them all the time and a spoonful of good mixture once a day,
Couldn't be simpler.
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:22 pm

good film hal...I see the birds are bricoux x janssen them old bricoux have a constitution of iron unlike a lot of pigeons today
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:35 pm

I wonder if he jabs them every year, not with with he's arm
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:05 pm

Honey if sourced locally and not bought from a supermarket because that will be pasteurised and worthless, it will be full of enzimes and no bacteria will live in it.
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:11 pm

I have been talking to a good friend of mine who has bees, he is also a top surgeon in the hospital, he assures me that honey kills all bacteria and will not promote its growth, it will never go off in the jar and pots of honey found in tombs in Egypt have been found after thousands of years and still edible?
He knows his stuff and feels honey is a strong anti bacterial antibiotic, as strong as any known to man, however all honey bought in the super market has been pasteurised which means super heated which is EU regulations there fore its useless and is then basically sugar.
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:19 pm

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Hi don, I know many will disagree with me and say its rubbish probiotics work, but they wont do what I have and try it, I couldn't care less pigeons for me is a hobby and I do lots of other things if I mess up a season to find the truth I will.

I am open to other opinions and always willing to try anything new, but I have found this out by trial and error and with an already super healthy loft, and I think its all in the mind and we like to think things are better than they are.

I would love to find a product that keeps my pigeons in sparking health 24-7 and a loft with no problems and sickness, but its not out there and neither are all the answers, and I don't have them either, but my loft will never buy a probiotic again, and the apple cider vinegar will be brought here by the tanker full.

Interesting Martyn but I would have to agree with you

But what I will say is when I joined this site I did tell fanciers the importance honey was and how it helped the birds recuperate quicker and gave them that extra step
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:35 am

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I have been talking to a good friend of mine who has bees, he is also a top surgeon in the hospital, he assures me that honey kills all bacteria and will not promote its growth, it will never go off in the jar and pots of honey found in tombs in Egypt have been found after thousands of years and still edible?
He knows his stuff and feels honey is a strong anti bacterial antibiotic, as strong as any known to man, however all honey bought in the super market has been pasteurised which means super heated which is EU regulations there fore its useless and is then basically sugar.

I wonder if manuka honey is treated the same (pasteurised) that's a eye opener martyn
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:11 am

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think manuka honey  is different   and at one time  cost about £30 a jar

yes you can still pay that for it George for some brands ...aldi do one for £3 but its all about the quality of it ...I think if I was going to use honey I would go and get it locally
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:31 pm

manuka honey on special offer at Holland and barrets
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:11 pm

Holland and barrett sale, manuka honey was £49.99, now £27.33
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:19 pm

think I will pass on the amber nectar at them prices Razz
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:22 pm

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Holland and barrett sale, manuka honey was £49.99, now £27.33

you can buy 1 litre of belgasol for that price ...great stuff for picking birds up that are flown out
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:40 pm

anyone know what sour crop symptoms are, and what causes it...?
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:49 pm

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may be better buying better birds  

I am not in pigeons to win George just to enjoy but sometimes we do so I will stick with what I got ...nothing wrong with keeping them healthy with a few natural supplements whatever they are Smile


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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:10 pm

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anyone know what sour crop symptoms are, and what causes it...?

its a fungal issue david  
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:26 pm

and what cures it besides sour crop tablets ?, or do sour crop tablets work...?

can it be transmitted to other pigeons ?
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:05 pm

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and what cures it besides sour crop tablets ?, or do sour crop tablets work...?

can it be transmitted to other pigeons ?

ropa,iodine ,nystatin,fennel tea,vinegar doubt it will ever manifest into a problem for you david given your care of the birds
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PostSubject: Re: probiotics for pigeons   Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:36 pm

i think its all in the mind keep swapping feed vits meds etc can only upset the guts to many overdose with meds even vits funny you never here birds are unwell during the winter is this cus they aint being pumped up with all the this will that will great products that dont do feck all
very rare you see birds ill in winter ide say 90% are on a good low diet with no meds thats all they need maybe the odd tonic now and again then soo as pairing comes and racing its treat treat treat and its all to much and most a waist of time get your birds tested save money and save putting your birds on something they may not need remeber drugs are there to keep the nasties away but they can work in 2 ways ie drag your birds down just like most do for a few days
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