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PostSubject: Expensive birds.   Mon May 16, 2016 2:02 pm

Mike Ganus bought his SA winner back at auction. $80,00. Oops! $100.000!
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Mon May 16, 2016 7:37 pm

no pigeon is worth that type of money not even for the entire family more money than sense
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Mon May 16, 2016 9:03 pm

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no pigeon is worth that type of money not even for the entire family more money than sense  

Will second that 110% Mark
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Mon May 16, 2016 9:23 pm

lot of money to spend on a pigeon.......some prices are ridiculous , even some of the ones we see advertised in the bhw.
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 4:43 pm

well you can only blame the Chinese and the internet for getting prices so high and all the advertisements

A few of my friends have brought pigeons for no more than £15 max and they have been world class pigeons
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 4:53 pm

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well you can only blame the Chinese and the internet for getting prices so high and all the advertisements

A few of my friends have brought pigeons for no more than £15 max and they have been  world class pigeons
because a bird is £15 does not say weather it is a worse bird than an expensive bird there is only 2 ways to find out the basket or the breeding shed results is what counts not prices paid sean
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 7:10 pm

ive just sold some on elimar, 6 ybs for 75 quid...that works out £12.50 each which is for nothing.....I put them up at 11.00 pm last night, and when I checked at 6.50 am this morning they had sold.

£12.50 a yb is for nothing, but you only need one to win, which might be better than a bird someone has given £100 for.
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 7:40 pm

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ive just sold some on elimar, 6 ybs for 75 quid...that works out £12.50 each which is for nothing.....I put them up at 11.00 pm last night, and when I checked at 6.50 am this morning they had sold.

£12.50 a yb is for nothing, but you only need one to win, which might be better than a bird someone has given £100 for.


some one got a bargain u could hardly rear a young in for that sean
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 7:53 pm

that's true sean, you couldn't rear them for that price.....I hope they race well for the new owner.
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 10:21 pm

seanl wrote:
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well you can only blame the Chinese and the internet for getting prices so high and all the advertisements

A few of my friends have brought pigeons for no more than £15 max and they have been  world class pigeons
because a  bird is £15   does not say weather it is a worse bird than an expensive bird there is only 2 ways   to find out the basket or the breeding shed  results is what counts not prices paid   sean

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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 10:26 pm

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ive just sold some on elimar, 6 ybs for 75 quid...that works out £12.50 each which is for nothing.....I put them up at 11.00 pm last night, and when I checked at 6.50 am this morning they had sold.

£12.50 a yb is for nothing, but you only need one to win, which might be better than a bird someone has given £100 for.


some one got a bargain  u could hardly rear a young in for that  sean

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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 10:27 pm

David hope they do well for the new owners and win big and breed champions
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Tue May 17, 2016 10:28 pm

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David hope they do well for the new owners and win big and breed champions


we can hope eh don........... cheers lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 8:56 am

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Mike Ganus bought his SA winner back at auction. $80,00. Oops! $100.000!


For me - This is one of the biggest problems that we have with our sport - Prices of birds are getting (have gotten) NUTS!

As has been said before, - NO pigeons is worth that much money!

But everyone is jumping on the same band-wagon. They think that, just because they have paid a lot of money for a bird, they have to charge BIG money for the babies. And in a way, they are right. If you pay a lot for a bird, you HAVE to charge a large amount for the youngsters, just to get your money back.

The reasoning - 'they' say - is "The pigeons Pedigree is Golden" but the pigeon might not be golden. We all know how many Top Quality pigeons we have to breed from to get ONE Top Quality young bird. And I am sure, there are hundreds of stories about top winning birds that have been bred from, not so fantastic parents.

Take birds from The Coopers of Bath, UK, there pigeons are crazy prices. Even people that have the same type or strain of bird as the Coopers, can charge a lot of money for totally un-related pigeons.

I was recently looking for some Deweerdt pigeons and was lucky to get help from another member of this forum, and was able to get what I wanted for a reasonable price. But I could have paid crazy money from another fancier, if I had been stupid enough to do so.

I guess, in a way- no bird is worth more that £50 unless is has won lots!

What do we all think?

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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 9:27 am

I do think some fanciers pay far too much for pigeons phil, and especially untested birds......the most I have ever paid for pigeons is £100 each for two of them, which for me is a lot.......the rest have been cheaper.

I don't think just because you pay a lot of money for a pigeon, it guarantees its a good one....
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 9:50 am

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I do think some fanciers pay far too much for pigeons phil, and especially untested birds......the most I have ever paid for pigeons is £100 each for two of them, which for me is a lot.......the rest have been cheaper.

I don't think just because you pay a lot of money for a pigeon, it guarantees its a good one....


I agree 100% with everything you said.

Bravo!
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 10:37 am

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that's true sean, you couldn't rear them for that price.....I hope they race well for the new owner.

If I had seen them I would have been the new owner
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 10:59 am

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that's true sean, you couldn't rear them for that price.....I hope they race well for the new owner.

If I had seen them I would have been the new owner

shame you didn't see them lofty, I didn't put them on there for the money really,(hence the low price) I would have preferred them to have gone to forum members....... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 11:58 am

I'm alway checking in on the Elimar site, can't believe I've missed them as I'm short on ybs to race, never mind David
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PostSubject: Re: Expensive birds.   Wed May 18, 2016 12:24 pm

blueskylofts wrote:
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I do think some fanciers pay far too much for pigeons phil, and especially untested birds......the most I have ever paid for pigeons is £100 each for two of them, which for me is a lot.......the rest have been cheaper.

I don't think just because you pay a lot of money for a pigeon, it guarantees its a good one....


I agree 100% with everything you said.

Bravo!
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SmileSmile Pigeon flyers are for the most part just like race horse owners Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  they become delusional sadly I've found  lol!  lol!  lol!  as the prise just keeps rising they believe that their onto the next greatest thing, & then loose the ability to just walk away  Wink  Wink from a bargain ???. cheers
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