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+4David halcanada Knackered blueskylofts 8 posters | Author | Message |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:28 am | |
| Does anyone know if there is anything like an Encyclopedia on Racing Pigeons or at least a comprehensive book on all things racing pigeons?
Maybe members could recommend some really good, up-to-date DVD's that would help answer questions about different aspects of our sport. There is a lot on YouTube and the like, but very little that is new and modern, and we all know how much pigeon racing has changed in the past 15 years.
I must say at this point that I have found this forum very helpful and members are only too willing to give advice. But I have so many questions about all sorts of things to do with breeding, rearing, separating young birds, what to do in the early days of letting Y/B's out for the first few times, training, feeding .... and on and on. I would be tasking over this forum if I was to ask all my questions.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone local to me that would help. I used to know Stan Dagerfield quite well and have been to his house a couple of times recently, but not found anyone in. however, I was told the other day, that he is not very well. Having been out of the sport for a long time, I have lost touch with the people I used to know, plus, after the wins I had in the past, I don't think anyone would give me the time of day.
Over to you guys. I await your answers.
Yours in Sport
Phil (blueskylofts) |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14358 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:26 am | |
| - blueskylofts wrote:
- Does anyone know if there is anything like an Encyclopedia on Racing Pigeons or at least a comprehensive book on all things racing pigeons?
Maybe members could recommend some really good, up-to-date DVD's that would help answer questions about different aspects of our sport. There is a lot on YouTube and the like, but very little that is new and modern, and we all know how much pigeon racing has changed in the past 15 years.
I must say at this point that I have found this forum very helpful and members are only too willing to give advice. But I have so many questions about all sorts of things to do with breeding, rearing, separating young birds, what to do in the early days of letting Y/B's out for the first few times, training, feeding .... and on and on. I would be tasking over this forum if I was to ask all my questions.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone local to me that would help. I used to know Stan Dagerfield quite well and have been to his house a couple of times recently, but not found anyone in. however, I was told the other day, that he is not very well. Having been out of the sport for a long time, I have lost touch with the people I used to know, plus, after the wins I had in the past, I don't think anyone would give me the time of day.
Over to you guys. I await your answers.
Yours in Sport
Phil (blueskylofts) The best I could come up with Phil is Colin Walker's new book on deceases & general health as such. Might not like the man etc but I'm prepared to give due credit for what he has done with his book. |
| | | blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:36 am | |
| - Knackered wrote:
- blueskylofts wrote:
- Does anyone know if there is anything like an Encyclopedia on Racing Pigeons or at least a comprehensive book on all things racing pigeons?
Maybe members could recommend some really good, up-to-date DVD's that would help answer questions about different aspects of our sport. There is a lot on YouTube and the like, but very little that is new and modern, and we all know how much pigeon racing has changed in the past 15 years.
I must say at this point that I have found this forum very helpful and members are only too willing to give advice. But I have so many questions about all sorts of things to do with breeding, rearing, separating young birds, what to do in the early days of letting Y/B's out for the first few times, training, feeding .... and on and on. I would be tasking over this forum if I was to ask all my questions.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone local to me that would help. I used to know Stan Dagerfield quite well and have been to his house a couple of times recently, but not found anyone in. however, I was told the other day, that he is not very well. Having been out of the sport for a long time, I have lost touch with the people I used to know, plus, after the wins I had in the past, I don't think anyone would give me the time of day.
Over to you guys. I await your answers.
Yours in Sport
Phil (blueskylofts) The best I could come up with Phil is Colin Walker's new book on deceases & general health as such. Might not like the man etc but I'm prepared to give due credit for what he has done with his book. Thanks Knackered - I will have a look at the book, but I want more that just illnesses. Phil |
| | | halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:49 pm | |
| Lots of info and books on the Pigeon Insider site. Only new thing that comes to my mind are Et.s. Feeding for intelligence idea was a washout. If you have won before consistently, go with those methods. |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 42925 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:09 pm | |
| different fanciers have different idea`s of management, each win with their own way........I don't think there is a definitive encyclopedia on pigeons and a correct way of managing them, I think its just a matter of reading whats on the internet and listening to what fanciers say......then deciding whats best for you and your birds, decide which fits into your way of life.
any questions you may have phil, I think you are best just asking, then out of the answers you get, decide which way is for you. |
| | | edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:53 pm | |
| there is loads of info on the internet, if anyone offers advice take it on board use it if it makes sence, forget it if it don't, keep your system simple ,less to remember,when you find something that works stay with it, take no notice of the bullshiters,and work your time with the birds your way, if its to be it will be |
| | | Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:16 pm | |
| - edgie wrote:
- there is loads of info on the internet, if anyone offers advice take it on board use it if it makes sence, forget it if it don't, keep your system simple ,less to remember,when you find something that works stay with it, take no notice of the bullshiters,and work your time with the birds your way, if its to be it will be
Absolutely spot on Boss |
| | | blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:59 am | |
| - edgie wrote:
- there is loads of info on the internet, if anyone offers advice take it on board use it if it makes sence, forget it if it don't, keep your system simple ,less to remember,when you find something that works stay with it, take no notice of the bullshiters,and work your time with the birds your way, if its to be it will be
GREAT advice my friend! Thanks Phil |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14358 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:57 am | |
| - blueskylofts wrote:
- edgie wrote:
- there is loads of info on the internet, if anyone offers advice take it on board use it if it makes sence, forget it if it don't, keep your system simple ,less to remember,when you find something that works stay with it, take no notice of the bullshiters,and work your time with the birds your way, if its to be it will be
GREAT advice my friend! Thanks Phil Phil in all honesty it's about as good advise as any one could give you etc from Edgie. But I would put foreward thou, have things really improved for most of us etc with all the knowledge available via the internet as such. One could call it brain overload now & we may like to think we are smarter in how we do things, but sadly I just wonder at times are we really smarter now compared to the old days/ways . |
| | | Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:03 am | |
| I'm like you Phil, been out of the game for a number of years and just starting again so it's all a bit new, like the guys have said I'm picking up some advice off club members, the guys on here are of a great help, and of course there's the internet which is a mine of info, so over the next couple of years it will be sorting out the good from the bad and use what suits us |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 42925 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:25 am | |
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| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16266 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:59 pm | |
| good pigeons in good health you wont go far wrong ...so many different systems work a large proportion of success has to be down to good pigeons but they need to be and stay healthy ,motivation helps too but health is the no 1 factor without healthy pigeons you just aswell p1$$ into the wind |
| | | blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:34 pm | |
| Thanks to everyone that has commented on this subject.
For sure there is a LOT to learn - I know the basics and after all, last time I raced pigeons, I did quite well, so I would think there wasn't anything much wrong with the way I had them or trained them.
I am trusting that I have bought some good stock birds and I will have to see if I can build a good new family with them. If not .... we will have to wait and see.
I guess I trust in what I am doing, listen to everyone's advice, sift through all that and keep the good stuff, stick to my 3 year plan, and see where it leads me.
Cheers ya-all Phil |
| | | edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: Encyclopedia on racing pigeons Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:50 pm | |
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| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 42925 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| | | | blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Keeping up with the times Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:12 am | |
| - edgie wrote:
- I used to live in a town of inbred muppets who thought they could race pigeons , 1 or 2 could do rather well, they used to tell me I was twenty years behind time when I started back at the game,they soon took the hough,i grew up very fast and changed into long trousers they are still no further forward than the short trousers they grew up in ,and probably will still be wearing them ,when the big loft calls, what im saying is you have to move with the times or you will be left with the muppet gang
I totally agree with you edgie - it is the same with all aspects of life - 'Move forward or get left behind'. As you all know, I have been away from the sport of over 14 years and in all that things have changed A LOT! That is one reason I am asking SO many questions - I want to learn as much as I can about the newer ways of doing things. Also, at the moment, I do not belong to a club and do not know anyone that flies pigeons that I can talk to. You guys are my only contact with pigeon racers at the moment. We all know that yesterdays way do not work today. No long is 850 yards a minute good enough - no long to most people feed their Y/B's much maize or beans - etc etc. I am sure there are still people that do things the 'traditional' way and maybe do well, but for the majority, times have moved on. David, I am sorry you fell you know less now, than you did 10 years ago - I do not want to be like that - I want to move with the times and learn as much as I can about new modern ways. HOWEVER - this is not really want I was talking about when I asked about an encyclopedia, but never mind. All the very best to ALL our members. Phil |
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Posts : 16266 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
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| | | David Oldbird
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| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14358 Join date : 2013-03-11
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