Tarbes National Cheat....

just been reading about the tarbes national winner cheating......what I cant work out is how he did it

they reckon he registered his 14 entries onto his ets, then put those pigeons back into the loft and sent 14 others to the race........my question is, what happened at the basketing station when he was basketing his 14 birds, and putting them into the panniers ...didn't they go through the ets system there and register the birds going to the race...?


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1519785/pigeon-racing-world-rocked-after-champion-eamon-kelly-cheats-to-win-grand-national/

been watching events unfold over last few days ....toss pot has made a mockery of pigeon racing ripped off every fancier in the country one way or another what a grunt cheers eamon Kelly for dragging pigeon racing down to your level ...hope he gets some bird

makes you wonder if he cheated the other time he won it...

all should be scrutinised now and anyway if he did win it fairly should he now be stripped of that title i think so why should he have any engraving on any nfc trophy after his skulduggery in at least 3 nfc races you can bet yer bottom dollar he has been at it before this

probably so Darren, rare you get caught on your first time eh.......

David wrote:

just been reading about the tarbes national winner cheating......what I cant work out is how he did it

they reckon he registered his 14 entries onto his ets, then put those pigeons back into the loft and sent 14 others to the race........my question is, what happened at the basketing station when he was basketing his 14 birds, and putting them into the panniers ...didn't they go through the ets system there and register the birds going to the race...?


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1519785/pigeon-racing-world-rocked-after-champion-eamon-kelly-cheats-to-win-grand-national/

From what I hear he was apart of the marking team ?????

oldstrain wrote:

all should be scrutinised now and anyway if he did win it fairly should he now be stripped of that title i think so why should he have any engraving on any nfc trophy after his skulduggery in at least 3 nfc races you can bet yer bottom dollar he has been at it before this

It looks like the Police are being called in to investigate for fraud

Another thing which is being said is that to win at national level you  need to fly as good in your club which???

Eammon was not at all and people have been watching him for a few years now

But were is money there is always someone out there thinking of ways round it

Don Webb wrote:

From what I hear he was apart of the marking team ?????

that's even worse, he said he was tempted and sucumbed , but it shows intent was there long before, if he was part of the marking team.......

Been told he marked his birds first at home then at the marking station.and simply swaped the paper work.? If it's true makes you think ?. It's a sad day for the sport

he was in possession of master and was official to send off all race sheets and paperwork he just switched clocks and sheets for another ...sent a complete different team to the race

well planned and exicuted by the sounds of it......not a spur of the moment temptation eh.

edgie wrote:

Been told he marked his birds first at home then at the marking station.and simply swaped the paper work.? If it's true makes you think ?. It's a sad day for the sport

Definitely a sad day Steve for our sport in general I suspect. From my perspective thou, if the rules/management is tightened up etc by those with the power some good may just come out of it as such because of this sorry episode.

was this made possible with the use of ETS, would it have been possible to cheat using a T3 and rubbers...?

by the sounds of it david procedures were very lax ...same old down the club eh the very few do everything while the others swill beer and spill the bull dung in this case he was quite happy with this scenario at his nfc marking station apparently across the road from where he lives

oldstrain wrote:

by the sounds of it david procedures were very lax ...same old down the club eh the very few do everything while the others swill beer and spill the bull dung in this case he was quite happy with this scenario at his nfc marking station apparently across the road from where he lives

Spot on Daz that side of the sport will never change

Mind you have a look at the first 2 pigeons

1 and 2 section timed together another 3 clocked in or thrown over the pad LOL LOL

was this made possible with the use of ETS, would it have been possible to cheat using a T3 and rubbers...?
Yes. 1 fancier here had the bottom of his wooden clock lightly glued. Fell off one night is how he was caught. Same guy had a clock that when you punched the first bird half the first hole was open. Could put a rubber in anytime after clocking.

halcanada wrote:

was this made possible with the use of ETS, would it have been possible to cheat using a T3 and rubbers...?
Yes. 1 fancier here had the bottom of his wooden clock lightly glued. Fell off one night is how he was caught. Same guy had a clock that when you punched the first bird half the first hole was open. Could put a rubber in anytime after clocking.

yes nothings fool proof the cheats always find a way if they are determined ...it must all be for money and to be the big i am how anyone could actually enjoy lying and cheating is beyond me but when you see his interview after last years tarbes winner he is smirking the whole way through it ...a really smug character i hope he gets bird see how smug he is then ....ripping off pensioners and hard working folk he deserves the book thrown at him and more

if he marked the birds at home the time and date on the sheet would show that the birds were marked before the official time and the clock would read 24 birds marked if the same clock was used to mark the second 14 if the basketing sheet was used from the marking clock and the clocking sheet from a second clock the serial Numbers would be different

the details of how he did it are pretty sketchy I think......reason being they don't want others to know how he did it, so they cant do the same.

I see dave there isn't any way you can cheet with ets its all down to people not being observant and checking paper work

markevans wrote:

if he marked the birds at home the time and date on the sheet would show that the birds were marked before the official time and the clock would read 24 birds marked if the same clock was used to mark the second 14 if the basketing sheet was used from the marking clock and the clocking sheet from a second clock the serial Numbers would be different

2 clocks were used he had access to paperwork as he was the chief at his basket station therefore he would send all paperwork off and only lived across the road from basket staion so probably did his deed minutes before he left his home if he was switching clocks and sheets it could easily be done because nobody would question him he was the chief

That could be done but that's not down to ets and being able to cheet with it sthe same could be done with rubbers