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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:00 am | |
| My young bird loft is a two sections loft. I have the more mature y/bs in one side and the later ones in the other side.
The mature ones are flying out really well twice and day - or training by car, one part of the day and exercising around the loft the other part of the day.
BUT every time I let them out of the loft, I am worried that one will hit the central upright between the two sliding outer doors. I have already had a couple of close shaves, where a bird has slightly touched the centre dividing upright.
Has anyone else had this problem - or does anyone know what I can do, to safeguard my birds from really injuring themselves?
I have painted the centre dividing strut with white paint, to make it stand out, but I don't think that is making any difference.
Phil
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| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16270 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:53 am | |
| I let mine out through the trap my bolting wires are removable I use those small white blocks used in pre packed kitchen unit furniture and the rod of the bolting wires sits in them each end where the pre piloted screw hole is the additional pre piloted holes in the blocks allow you to set the blocks at whatever height you want ...its just the right size for the support bar for the bolting wires to sit in rigid inside the block for trapping but enough room to remove for exiting the loft ...I remember a picture of your loft you had a trap on the side with bolting wires ...just a thought simple but it works |
| | | Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:24 pm | |
| - blueskylofts wrote:
- My young bird loft is a two sections loft. I have the more mature y/bs in one side and the later ones in the other side.
The mature ones are flying out really well twice and day - or training by car, one part of the day and exercising around the loft the other part of the day.
BUT every time I let them out of the loft, I am worried that one will hit the central upright between the two sliding outer doors. I have already had a couple of close shaves, where a bird has slightly touched the centre dividing upright.
Has anyone else had this problem - or does anyone know what I can do, to safeguard my birds from really injuring themselves?
I have painted the centre dividing strut with white paint, to make it stand out, but I don't think that is making any difference.
Phil
Phil put a small shelf up on the inside of the loft so the youngsters can land on it before they exit the loft/trap |
| | | blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:24 pm | |
| - oldstrain wrote:
- I let mine out through the trap my bolting wires are removable I use those small white blocks used in pre packed kitchen unit furniture and the rod of the bolting wires sits in them each end where the pre piloted screw hole is the additional pre piloted holes in the blocks allow you to set the blocks at whatever height you want ...its just the right size for the support bar for the bolting wires to sit in rigid inside the block for trapping but enough room to remove for exiting the loft ...I remember a picture of your loft you had a trap on the side with bolting wires ...just a thought simple but it works
Is there any chance you could send me a picture of what you speak about please Darren. Cheers Phil |
| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16270 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:54 pm | |
| - blueskylofts wrote:
- oldstrain wrote:
- I let mine out through the trap my bolting wires are removable I use those small white blocks used in pre packed kitchen unit furniture and the rod of the bolting wires sits in them each end where the pre piloted screw hole is the additional pre piloted holes in the blocks allow you to set the blocks at whatever height you want ...its just the right size for the support bar for the bolting wires to sit in rigid inside the block for trapping but enough room to remove for exiting the loft ...I remember a picture of your loft you had a trap on the side with bolting wires ...just a thought simple but it works
Is there any chance you could send me a picture of what you speak about please Darren. Cheers Phil I would not know where to start phil I am useless with the pc sorry but the white blocks are used to hold 2 pieces of timber together within wall units/kitchen units do you know the type I mean |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:46 pm | |
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| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16270 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:55 pm | |
| yes that's them david just insert each end of support rod for bolting wires into blocks then screw blocks at appropriate height and fannys yer aunt ...just pop rod in and out of trap area when required theirs enough flex in the rod to do this ...you may come up with a better idea but in principle you want to be able to remove and put back bolting wires and this works for me |
| | | blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Young Birds damaging themselves! Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:09 pm | |
| MANY thanks to all that contributed to my dilemma regarding my y/bs possibly damaging themselves when leaving the loft. I have taken advice from you all and this is what I have come up with. See images below:- First image shows my loft front with both outer sliding doors open. I was opening both outer doors, then opening the inner door on the left (as you look at the picture above) and the birds would come flying out. Sometimes getting VERY close to the centre upright between the two outer doors. Now I have made some modifications. Below is a picture of the inside of the Left hand door as you look at the loft - the one with the Sputnik on it. You can clearly see the bob wires. Now below the row of bob wires, you can see a slot that runs parallel to the bottom of the bob wires. I have made a small landing board that goes into this slot, so the birds can land on it, BEFORE going out. You can also see that I have made something to keep the bob wires up out of the way. Maybe not quite as good as one member suggested, but it works. Also to stop me opening the outer door when the bob wires are in the UP position (Like I did once before, braking every single wire) I have made a simple key that goes through the centre dividing post and into the sliding door. This STOPS the door from opening. You can see the key at the bottom left of the last image, it looks like a short silver thing, stuck in the door divide. I trust this will do for now - I just have to teach the birds to go out of the loft by this new means. I will also make the inner landing board a bit bigger, when I can get some more wood. Thanks again you lot! Have a great weekend. Phil |
| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16270 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:10 pm | |
| good job phil |
| | | Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:00 pm | |
| That's is spot on Phil
Just make the inner landing board bigger apart from that all good mate |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14379 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Young Birds damaging themselves! Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:02 am | |
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