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PostSubject: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:05 pm

As you might know - Now we are going to be in frogland for next year's racing season - so we need a Racing Loft.

We have LOTS of room but where we want to put the new loft was a bit overgrown, to say the least.  I have some photographs of where we want the new loft to be when it was all overgrown but unfortunately they are trapped in our iPad because of the problems I told you about before.

We also have a very nice Nikon camera which isn't quite as easy to use as an iPad or iPhone but at least I can download the images to the computer relatively quickly and easily.

We have been working quite hard on getting the loft base and stones all level and the image below shows how far we have got.



The loft will be 4 metres wide by 3 metres deep - or 13 foot wide by 9 foot 9 inches deep.  With a 3 foot wide corridor along the front, with two sections.

More about the new loft as time goes by.

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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:13 pm

a good start phil ...put damp proof course membrane on top of blocks or timber before floor goes down ,all the very best with your project and racing to it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:24 pm

looking good phil, a nice solid base.......will be interesting to see how the build developes over the next few weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:11 pm

Good start, but before you put the loft up I'd make sure its high enough to get terriers under if you have to
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:20 pm

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a good start phil ...put damp proof course membrane on top of blocks or timber before floor goes down ,all the very best with your project and racing to it Smile
Darren - why do you recommend a damp proof layer?  And would something like Visquene do as that is the only type of damp proofing that we have here?

My wife is coming to the UK tomorrow just for a week.  If we really needed something in the way of damp course, maybe she can get it from T & P in Stroud.

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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:18 pm

phil, I think Darren means to put a damp proof just under the joists where they rest on the blocks....which will prevent possible damp in future, no ones saying it would get damp, but prevention at this stage is easy, and its better than cure once the loft is up......I have never bothered, but that's me just rushing to get it built lol!

will you be making the back, sides, front etc in sections, then fixing them together or building a frame and adding the boards/planks onto the frame...?
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:20 pm

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phil, I think Darren means to put a damp proof just under the joists where they rest on the blocks....which will prevent possible damp in future, no ones saying it would get damp, but prevention at this stage is easy, and its better than cure once the loft is up......I have never bothered, but that's me just rushing to get it built   lol!

will you be making the back, sides, front etc in sections, then fixing them together or building a frame and adding the boards/planks onto the frame...?
Yes David - I will be making EVERYTHING myself and it will be made in sections.

1.  To make it easier to construct
2.  To make it easier to erect, and
3.  So when it is time to move back to England we can take the whole thing apart easily and transport it.

The floor will be made from 18 mm marine ply on 3 x 2 joists which will sit on the big timbers in the photograph.  The back and possibly the sides will be made from 18 mm external ply, the roof will be made from 15 mm external ply and the front (just so it looks really nice) will be made from 28 mm shiplap.  I will be making a framework for every section out of CLS so it can either be bolted or screwed together.

I haven't quite made up my mind yet whether to do the sides in ply or shiplap.

Originally I wanted to make the roof what they call an offset apex, in other words the front goes up quite steeply and is quite short in comparison with the rear section.  But after thinking about it, I think it might be fraught with problems, or at least a lot more difficult than a simple sloping roof.  But in any event, I am going to put in a false ceiling covered with chicken mesh.

The roof will be covered in 'Torch-on' felt which has a 25 year warranty.

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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:34 pm

sounds good phil, good luck with the build.......look forward to seeing the progress.

one thing I`d like to say though phil is, ive found when fanciers build their own lofts or do any alterations other fanciers sometimes say things like "do it this way" or "you should have done it that way", I don't think they are being critical or belittling your work, they are mainly just offering friendly advise, so don't be too offended if there are comments along those lines......its all part of pigeon keeping and loft building...lol!

good luck ... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:02 pm

David wrote:
sounds good phil, good luck with the build.......look forward to seeing the progress.

one thing I`d like to say though phil is, ive found when fanciers build their own lofts or do any alterations other fanciers sometimes say things like "do it this way" or "you should have done it that way", I don't think they are being critical or belittling your work, they are mainly just offering friendly advise, so don't be too offended if there are comments along those lines......its all part of pigeon keeping and loft building...lol!

good luck ... cheers
Thanks for the advice David.

This will be the EIGHTH loft I will have built - every time I build one, I learn something.

Also - I have found that if you ask pigeon people (or even Don't ask) you will get umpteen different answers, so I don't expect this project to be any different.

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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:25 pm

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David wrote:
sounds good phil, good luck with the build.......look forward to seeing the progress.

one thing I`d like to say though phil is, ive found when fanciers build their own lofts or do any alterations other fanciers sometimes say things like "do it this way" or "you should have done it that way", I don't think they are being critical or belittling your work, they are mainly just offering friendly advise, so don't be too offended if there are comments along those lines......its all part of pigeon keeping and loft building...lol!

good luck ... cheers
Thanks for the advice David.

This will be the EIGHTH loft I will have built - every time I build one, I learn something.

Also - I have found that if you ask pigeon people (or even Don't ask) you will get umpteen different answers, so I don't expect this project to be any different.

Phil
best thing you can do is convert an old caravan to a pigeon loft then you can take it with you, as you seem to move more than me lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:51 pm

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David wrote:
sounds good phil, good luck with the build.......look forward to seeing the progress.

one thing I`d like to say though phil is, ive found when fanciers build their own lofts or do any alterations other fanciers sometimes say things like "do it this way" or "you should have done it that way", I don't think they are being critical or belittling your work, they are mainly just offering friendly advise, so don't be too offended if there are comments along those lines......its all part of pigeon keeping and loft building...lol!

good luck ... cheers
Thanks for the advice David.

This will be the EIGHTH loft I will have built - every time I build one, I learn something.

Also - I have found that if you ask pigeon people (or even Don't ask) you will get umpteen different answers, so I don't expect this project to be any different.

Phil
best thing you can do is convert an old caravan to a pigeon loft then you can take it with you, as you seem to move more than me lol!


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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:01 pm

Phil the best advice I would give anyone building a loft

When getting ventilation right when you have the loft full of pigeons if the air flow is correct you will not smell pigeons

Plus if you stand in the loft in the summer with pigeons within it then feel the air flow if you can breath the pigeons can breath
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PostSubject: Re: Our New Racing Loft   Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:47 am

Don Webb wrote:
Phil the best advice I would give anyone building a loft

When getting ventilation right when you have the loft full of pigeons if the air flow is correct you will not smell pigeons

Plus if you stand in the loft in the summer with pigeons within it then feel the air flow if you can breath the pigeons can breath
true don but another trick is get a large metal tray crunch some newspaper up put it on the tray in the middle of the loft floor, set fire to the paper , the faster the smoke clears the better the ventilation . its a bit like a gas engineer testing the flue to the chimney . cheers
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