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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:46 am | |
| if your birds had a real tough race , and I mean a real tough one , would you fly it out as normal , or would you rest it and miss a race with it , me I would keep it locked in till Friday morning , then when let out as normal if it seemed ok it would go back to the race that night . |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16272 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:32 am | |
| I would keep the bird in a few days just open loft up see what the bird wanted to do and how it exercised I think if I really valued the bird I would give a week off always another day another race but that's just me |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:08 am | |
| if it was me I would give it as much time as it needed to get back to full health, if that meant one week, two weeks or three weeks, it wouldn't go until it was right........no point throwing it away after it had worked so hard to get home in a tough race....... |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:39 am | |
| That's why your a pigeon keeper David and not a pigeon racer. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:02 pm | |
| I've not got that far yet, but I can see the sense in what edgie and old strain are saying, personally I would probably use a bit of both, rest and see how it recovers, if unsure wait for another race, good answers from both fanciers |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:30 pm | |
| The thing is if you don't push them they will loose confidence and before you know it racing will have moved too far away and you finish up building a new Loft for the sofftees. You must take consideration you have a new generation coming through. So therefore let nature sort them ? |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:11 pm | |
| survival of the fittest eh edgie...? |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:56 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:01 pm | |
| how many birds you got altogether edgie,,,? |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:45 pm | |
| Keep it in for a few days on a light feed then let it out if it wont's to fly that's OK then one or two short training tosses and back in to racing |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:49 pm | |
| I would give it a second chance but if it went missing again or was late bye bye |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:52 pm | |
| - David wrote:
- how many birds you got altogether edgie,,,?
32 pair to race |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:52 pm | |
| - edgie wrote:
- if your birds had a real tough race , and I mean a real tough one , would you fly it out as normal , or would you rest it and miss a race with it , me I would keep it locked in till Friday morning , then when let out as normal if it seemed ok it would go back to the race that night .
Would agree Boss but its all about observation plenty of rest yes but for me once the bird has exercised round the loft see what the pigeons reactions are like once it has landed a pigeon will soon show you its condition |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: what would you do Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:53 pm | |
| But how many of us have had pigeons returned late from a and placed them straight back into the basket to turn up as your first pigeon ????? |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 69 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:07 am | |
| - David wrote:
- if it was me I would give it as much time as it needed to get back to full health, if that meant one week, two weeks or three weeks, it wouldn't go until it was right........no point throwing it away after it had worked so hard to get home in a tough race.......
If a bird can not recover from the REALLY hard race in 2 weeks, there is something wrong with the bird. After all, I am not aware of anyone on this forum that flies birds really long distances, like over 555 miles. (Or am I wrong again?) Or belong to the bigger associations like the BBC, BICC and National FC, where birds have to fly very long distances against thousands of birds from all parts of the country. I think, if a birds flies anything under 450 miles, it should be able to recover within 36 hours, if not less. Phil |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:36 am | |
| - blueskylofts wrote:
- David wrote:
- if it was me I would give it as much time as it needed to get back to full health, if that meant one week, two weeks or three weeks, it wouldn't go until it was right........no point throwing it away after it had worked so hard to get home in a tough race.......
If a bird can not recover from the REALLY hard race in 2 weeks, there is something wrong with the bird.
After all, I am not aware of anyone on this forum that flies birds really long distances, like over 555 miles. (Or am I wrong again?) Or belong to the bigger associations like the BBC, BICC and National FC, where birds have to fly very long distances against thousands of birds from all parts of the country.
I think, if a birds flies anything under 450 miles, it should be able to recover within 36 hours, if not less.
Phil I for one shall now be sending to races well over 500 miles this year now I have got a team again , I used to go to tarbes 728 miles and hopefully will do again , as for a tired bird if it has not recoverd in 3 days then I am afraid it is finished |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16272 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:44 am | |
| hate 2 day races phil ....bicc bbc nationals are not for me I quite enjoy club and fed as it still gives time with the family to but each to his own so long as you enjoy it don't matter where you race or the distance |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:55 am | |
| my interest in pigeon racing has always been the distance , I was 2nd in my first attempt , that set the stage for me back in 1972 , since then that is what I have been interested in , and now I have a strong team again I can afford a few knocks now , I have a couple of families more than capable of long distances flying , all I have to do is work them hard get them in the right frame of mind and send them , I am confident that some will do what is asked of them |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16272 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:57 am | |
| - edgie wrote:
- my interest in pigeon racing has always been the distance , I was 2nd in my first attempt , that set the stage for me back in 1972 , since then that is what I have been interested in , and now I have a strong team again I can afford a few knocks now , I have a couple of families more than capable of long distances flying , all I have to do is work them hard get them in the right frame of mind and send them , I am confident that some will do what is asked of them
good luck to you steve |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:00 am | |
| there is nothing better than to clock a 500 to 560 miler on the day , and if you ask one of your members who won what they probably wont remember ? , but ask them who won the furthest they will all remember that one |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:30 am | |
| - Don Webb wrote:
- But how many of us have had pigeons returned late from a and placed them straight back into the basket to turn up as your first pigeon ?????
yes I have and won the race it clearly has had a rest at somebodys expence but they go missing again as soon as it gets harder ? |
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littlehen Hatchling
Posts : 558 Join date : 2009-04-22
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:18 am | |
| you've got to give any pigeon a second chance and time to recover, a lot of champion birds have made a mistake and learned from it. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 42962 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: what would you do Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:43 am | |
| - littlehen wrote:
- you've got to give any pigeon a second chance and time to recover, a lot of champion birds have made a mistake and learned from it.
yes you do littlehen, they all deserve another chance.....simply because we don't know what they go through to get home along the journey. |
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